Hasbr-uh-oh - Business and Tariffs Discussion

LordGigaIce

Another babka?
Citizen
Just FYI, he backpedaled on the electronics exemptions yesterday, per HuffPost.
jfc I teach fifteen year olds who are more decisive about major decisions then this guy.
 

Platypus Prime

Well-known member
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"I think we should have a tariff on tar, if the tar tariffs for countries exporting tar are higher than the tar tariffs on ones if importing it. I call it, " The Tariff on Tar, If..."
"Are you being sarcastic?"
"No, I'm just reading this press release..."
 

Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
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Okay, I think we all have had a chance to vent about this subject, but it really is starting to head into P&R territory. Let's bring it back to the business side of the issue and keep the conversation going.

Thanks!
And eventually we may have some other "Hasbr-uh-oh" news to discuss that isn't related to the tariffs, so the topic title may inevitably have to be changed back.
 

Dekafox

Fabulously Foxy Dragon
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Speaking of other news(related to D&D) the Sigil VTT(virtual tabletop) launched as a beta, then was promptly sent immediately to maintenance mode and most of said team laid off, and the guy who appears to have been pushing the project left entirely. So no VTT where you're taking Optimus Prime to fight Beholders in fancy 3D(with microtransactions).

Also Chris Perkins, who'd been around since the TSR days, is retiring, while Jeremy Crawford, who was heavily involved since at least PHB2 of 4E and is responsible for a lot of 5E is also leaving in the near future. He'd been talking about retiring a while back but looks like he was waiting on the 5eR/5.5/2024 rollout to finish first before stepping aside. Hasbro isn't looking to fill either spot though and seems to be just shuffling the responsibilities onto their other employees.
 

Platypus Prime

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That's...odd. I am not a gamer and didn't even understand some of the acronyms, but if Hasbro wants to transition to a game company, doesn't it work against the goal to cancel the games leveraging their own IP?

And if that wasn't the concept, never mind. Like I said, not a gamer, I may have misunderstood.
 

Undead Scottsman

Well-known member
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Video games, not pen and paper games.

Which is probably just code for "stuff with oodles of microtransactions in it"

Monopoly GO! had made like 3 BILLION in revenue in the span of just over a year (April 2023 to July 2024). That's most likely what Chris Cox is talking about hen they're talking about doing more with video games.
 

Dekafox

Fabulously Foxy Dragon
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A VTT isn't a game by itself, it's literally a virtual tabletop to play other games such as D&D, a computer version of a physical tabletop with miniatures and such. Project Sigil was meant to be Hasbro tossing their hats into the ring, and almost certainly why they tried to kill the OGL(there's a whole thread on this elsewhere on the 'spark) as a lot of the provisions would have blocked any other company from duplicating some of its features. With that not happening, they had to actually compete, but couldn't cut it apparently. The guy who had been running it was originally from Zynga, a company well-known for microtransaction-stuffed mobile games, and undoubtedly had planned to stuff it full of them.
 

Exatron

Kaiser Dragon
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So I did end up placing one more order at Show.Z for the TF One wave of Blokees. I was on the fence on them when it was just the one wave, as Megatron's really the only one in that wave that I really wanted. But now they've teased Soundwave and Shockwave for the next Galaxy wave, and I'd be willing to bet Starscream will either be in that wave or planned for a following wave. And at that point, I would definitely want to have that set. Add in Elita and Airachnid, and I'd be pretty much completely satisfied.

Of course, now I'm questioning whether I'll be able to get that next wave, much less any waves after that. Anyone know of any good places to import them from that aren't in China and won't charge China-tariff-level prices for shipping? At first glance, doesn't seem like the Euro Amazon sites are going to be good options.
 

Dekafox

Fabulously Foxy Dragon
Citizen
Yes and no....

A White House official told Newsweek the calculation reflects the maximum potential rate some Chinese goods could face, combining the reciprocal tariff, the fentanyl tariff, and existing Section 301 tariffs that go up to 100 percent.

Electric vehicles, for example, have outstanding Section 301 tariffs of 100 percent dating back to the Biden Administration, meaning these products would face a 245 percent rate in total.
No new ones are being added it seems, just there was another subcategory of tariffs not being added in yet in the totals being discussed, for certain products.
 

Platypus Prime

Well-known member
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Anyone know of any good places to import them from that aren't in China and won't charge China-tariff-level prices for shipping? At first glance, doesn't seem like the Euro Amazon sites are going to be good options.

I'm not sure it would help, though I am not a tariff expert, I think the fact that the products are still made in China makes it so the tariff would apply even if you get it from a third party. If I'm wrong, GREAT! But if not, this is actually why the 'modern' versions of smuggling post-Prohibition weren't historically the norm, most smuggling operations were for normal but desirable products (household goods, luxury items, etc) that had high tariffs attached, so smugglers stepped in to get them to market without the markup, knowing they could charge less than legitimate channels and still turn a profit. I expect the same criminal cases involved in those will make a comeback to the companies that have shown a willingness to mislabel packages to get them in.
 

Steevy Maximus

Well known pompous pontificator
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Responses from the Toy Industry, from the Toy Book. Expect more of these sorts of releases to follow through summer as retailers would begin holiday build up.
Gemmy Industries (Big Mouth Bass and holiday inflatables)

Jonathan Cathey, Founder and CEO of The Loyal Subjects
 


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