Transformers: Age of the Primes toyline discussion || update: 2026 Computer Listings - Big Convoy, Quickstrike, Armada Sideways, and more.

LBD "Nytetrayn"

Broke the Matrix
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Council of Elders
Citizen
I just want a version without the goofy head. I don’t care about FFOD or off-brand Cyclonus.
Oh, good, so I'm not the only one reminded of Cyclonus.
 

Lobjob

Well-known member
Citizen
Retconning him as Sentinel has always drove me nuts. I guess it doesn't hurt anything, but I liked him being separate. But if he has to be sentinel prime in a line of primes then let it rip.
 

LordGigaIce

Another babka?
Citizen
I don't mind the retconning FFoD guys with established "previous Matrix bearer" names. These guys should be fairly important and it sucks that the original script didn't even bother with names. Giving them those is by far one of the least egregious things AVP did.

And given Animated's design for Sentinel, it makes the FFoD U-Haul Robot being another version of Sentinel that much easier to square.
 

Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
Citizen
I don't mind the retconning FFoD guys with established "previous Matrix bearer" names. These guys should be fairly important and it sucks that the original script didn't even bother with names.
G1 cartoon writers: "It was just a JOB to us! Lighten up, you nerds!" :p
 

LordGigaIce

Another babka?
Citizen
G1 cartoon writers: "It was just a JOB to us! Lighten up, you nerds!" :p
Oh I get it. The designs for the FFoD guys look like they were cobbled together from various art assets at 4:45pm on a Friday (this is part of their charm, btw).
But still... they could have rattled off some bs. It would be curious to see how the brand's overall mythology would have evolved had the FFoD guys gotten names. The Sunbow and Marvel writers didn't coordinate, so I doubt we would have gotten "We are Prima, We are Prime Nova, We are Sentinel Prime, We are Optimus Prime" in FFoD. Likely they would have come up with their own list of names, and we'd have two separate G1 lineages.

As it was, the Marvel guys were the only ones that bothered, and that was the list that got built up, expanded upon, and added to over the years, and then retroactively applied to the FFoD guys. Which was probably for the best, but still. The alternate timeline where they gave the FFoD guys their own distinct names and how that and the Marvel lineage would have been dealt with is fun to speculate on.
 

Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
Citizen
The Sunbow and Marvel writers didn't coordinate, so I doubt we would have gotten "We are Prima, We are Prime Nova, We are Sentinel Prime, We are Optimus Prime" in FFoD.
That, and the fact that Furman didn't make that list until four years after FFOD was made.
 

LBD "Nytetrayn"

Broke the Matrix
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Primus doesn't exist in the original cartoon; they were made by Quintessons.
I submit that a god's reach extends further across dimensions than those of a bunch of tentacled spinner racks from the mask section of Spirit Halloween.
 

Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
Citizen
Japan went and put Primus in the cartoon universe, but still let the Quints have their creation backstory.

Though, one could make the argument that Japanese G1 Primus is less an actual god and more just a being simply revered as one. Like how Japanese G1 Unicron isn't a god either (as was originally the case for TFTM Unicron), but wants to become one.
 


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