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I guess that makes sense. Everything influences everything, even Carnage in C-Minor.

It's always easy to make a point sound good when all the illustrative counterexamples are strawmen.

Heh heh. But yeah, if they were to actually give him any more joints, the "open cupboard" altmode would present some challenges (the "just facedown" aircraft carrier mode would be easier). I imagine he'd be pretty demanding partswise after all. Maybe the base altmode is just him sitting legs...

Oh, sorry, wrestling reference. It's one of those promos that caught on almost ironically. Although upon rereading it, I guess the original post DIDN'T ask for anyone's thoughts after all, just listing their own pitch. So... (shrug) I guess in replying first, I started us off on the wrong...

I mean, folks...

I'd be wary of dismissing ideas as "that's just quintessons as goofy/discount/etc [existing character]", not least because that's not as productive a perspective as it appears. Aside from the way it kind of reductively stops a conversation dead, it casts a shadow on alternatives. If nothing...

Did you... Just quote yourself with a clever winky-face rejoinder? Yeesh, I thought we liked this design team.

"Cyberworld" is making me think "digital/virtual space", but it's not, like, 1994 anymore, so it's gotta be something else. ... unless it's now a world where everyone has cyber sleeves...

I guess that's true. Leaning into the judging and tying that into conquest and invasion, plus incorporating subjugated races into the multihead structure, is definitely a fresh take that definitely doesn't bog itself down with creation/history stuff. Part of me thinks this could have just been...

I second everything from that last LordGigaIce post on this. I think feeling that people treat the stream system as an "old shame" may be projecting a little bit, and may be coming from value attached to the thing rather than the thing itself (or the behavior itself). Really, it's just as...

Broadside sounds like an easy Tidal Wave retool, and has in fact been mentioned in such threads forever. But he makes more sense to me as a Commander class figure at most, since he's never been "big enough to be a video game level", which might be the most memorable thing about Tidal Wave. I...

Quintessons are indeed a pretty neat concept that can be played with, conceptually malleable almost immediately after their introduction (we go from the wild corrupt courtroom to creators of the Transformers, and the tweaking has gone on since). I'm with you in preferring them as not THE makers...

To be fair, we didn't get a Machine Wars Optimus Prime in 1984 either.

I was being facetious in summing up what the general vibe was; I recall Sideways deliberately sounding like this, but even with Vector Prime himself hosting it got exhausting when people kept fishing for stuff they could then race to add to the wiki. "Aha! This obscure toy based on Rhinox is...

Definitely open to some non-84 Optimus Primes, if only to also give their would-be redeco/retool brethren a shot at getting made. Machine Wars (retool into Thunder Clash) Combat Hero (redeco into unreleased CHOP, retool into Energon Rodimus and/or better-matching Nova Prime) G2 Go-bot Energon...

I was and am intrigued by it, but even at the time I as puzzled by how much it was blowing up. It's literally "here's where it's from" and a specific way of writing the date and category of release... All information that already exists on a thing's wiki page, except now it's in a new and...

I want a version of that Missing Link Sentinel Prime in this more affordable format.

I do dig that selection! WRECKING TIME AND SPACE Cryotek vs. Everyone! Trying to mix up the Wreckers ranks with some Botcon and later era additions. Wave 1 Deluxe Voyager Leader Devcon (Siege Mirage retool) Flareup (Legacy Arcee redeco) Vok Tarantulas (Kingdom Tarantulas in FKTM...

I think it's because some stability in association, "this character turns into this specific thing", was established and maintained early on in the most accessible or widespread fiction. Those examples have the Cybertronian altmodes really made up and written in retroactively as a narrative...

That's what I'm saying! Use that Titan budget to give us two big, wide bois instead of one inaccurately tall boi. Couple of very plussed up Leader classes that turn into these nice chonky bases. Just give him the basics of articulation at last, and lots of attachment points and opening panels...