Armed Forces Behaving Badly

[PrimalxConvoy]

It's not just the (American) police or Russian troops in Ukraine that has blood on their hands; various contemporary armed forces seemingly act like monsters too. This thread has been created to highlight this.

To start the ball rolling, I submit the subhuman scum that have infested the British armed forces:

- https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62083196

"
SAS operatives in Afghanistan repeatedly killed detainees and unarmed men in suspicious circumstances, according to a BBC investigation.
Newly obtained military reports suggest that one unit may have unlawfully killed 54 people in one six-month tour.
The BBC found evidence suggesting the former head of special forces failed to pass on evidence to a murder inquiry..."

If the evidence is true, they should be flown to, and dumped outside the nearest ISIS/Taliban base in Afghanistan, with their crimes tatooed in Arabic on their chests and backs...

 

[NovaSaber]

'All lies': how the US military covered up gunning down two journalists in Iraq

Former Reuters journalist Dean Yates was in charge of the bureau in Baghdad when his Iraqi colleagues Namir Noor-Eldeen and Saeed Chmagh were killed. A WikiLeaks video called Collateral Murder later revealed details of their death

www.theguardian.com

Yates’s experiences covering the 2002 Bali bombings and the Boxing Day tsunami of 2004 seeded his post-traumatic stress, but 12 July 2007 is the day that changed his life irrevocably – while violently ending Namir’s and Saeed’s. It’s also the day that linked him by a thread of truth to the WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange, who would, three years later, become the world’s most infamous hacker-publisher-activist with his release of thousands of classified US military secrets.

They included a video WikiLeaks titled Collateral Murder, filmed from a US military Apache helicopter as it blasted to pieces Namir, 22, and Saeed, 40, and nine other men, while seriously wounding two children.

The US continues its legal efforts to extradite Assange from a British prison, where he is remanded in failing health, to face espionage allegations. Instructively, the detailed, 37-page US indictment against him makes no mention of Collateral Murder – the video that caused the US government and military more reputational damage than all the other secret documents combined, and that launched WikiLeaks and Assange as the foremost global enemy of state secrecy.

Is the US concerned that referring to the video will give rise to war crimes charges against the military personnel involved in the attack? Certainly, bringing the video into the prosecution case against Assange could only vindicate his role in exposing the US military’s lies about the ghastly killings.

 

[PrimalxConvoy]

"The UK government has paid out for the deaths of at least four times more Afghan children than it has previously admitted to.

Compensation payments have been issued for 64 children, rather than the 16 publicly acknowledged.

All were killed in fighting involving UK forces between 2006 and 2014...

...Of those deaths that have been recorded, the actual number of children killed could actually be as high as 135, because some of the fatalities are described in Ministry of Defence (MoD) documents merely as sons and daughters - with ages and circumstances of deaths not always included..."

(Source: - https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-63554941 )

 

[NovaSaber]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1633548066753249280

Pentagon Blocks Sharing Evidence of Possible Russian War Crimes With Hague Court

President Biden has not acted to resolve a dispute that pits the Defense Department against other agencies.

www.nytimes.com

American military leaders oppose helping the court investigate Russians because they fear setting a precedent that might help pave the way for it to prosecute Americans. The rest of the administration, including intelligence agencies and the State and Justice Departments, favors giving the evidence to the court, the officials said.

 

[Ungnome]

Shameful, but not surprising. Heck, the US got away with bombing retreating forces at the end of the Gulf war, there are certain people in the military brass who want to keep said options on the table in the future.

 

[wonko the sane?]

Thankfully, literally no other country on the planet has problems sharing russian incrimination... or american incrimination.

 

[PrimalxConvoy]

Liam Holden: Army torture forced murder confession, court rules.

The family of a Belfast man has been awarded £350,000 in damages after he was tortured into admitting killing a British soldier in 1972.

Liam Holden was subjected to waterboarding techniques while in military custody and his treatment led to a confession, the High Court ruled.

His conviction for murdering Private Frank Bell was quashed a decade ago.

The last man in the UK sentenced to hang, Mr Holden died last September, aged 68.

His death penalty was commuted and he was released 17 years into a 40-year sentence, the rest of which he spent on licence...

(Full article: - https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-northern-ireland-65063511 )

 

[PrimalxConvoy]

Dead soldier suffered relentless sexual harassment - Army report

Jaysley Beck, 19, is thought to have taken her own life after harassment in the Army, a report seen by BBC News says.

www.bbc.com

 

[Rhinox]

My middle daughter brought up the idea of going into the military when she turns 18. She has been told by myself, her mother, literally every adult in her life that she will not be joining the US military. it is simply not safe for women, period.

(for the record, the boy can choose between air force or navy. if he tries to join the marines, i'll break his legs myself)

 

[NovaSaber]

Not sure whether to put this here or the AI thread:

The Pentagon is moving toward letting AI weapons autonomously decide to kill humans

The use of drones capable of deciding whether to kill humans is alarming critics.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Spin-Out]

terminator wasn't an instruction manual you ******* vapor-brained idiots

 

[wonko the sane?]

Yes it was... if your goal was "escaping the responsibility of your actions.". Turn it on, give it an objective and let it do it's own thing.

And that's not even counting the whole "fear of being randomly murdered by an autonomous machine to prevent enemy actions" thing.

Edit: or the fact that some "politicians" will remove the human blocks preventing them from using the military for absolutely every. *******. Thing.

 

[Ungnome]

Military brass should be forced to watch Terminator, Star Trek's 'Ultimate Computer' episode, Colossus: The Forbin Project, etc.

The minute an AI controlled drone commits a friendly fire incident heads will roll.

 

[wonko the sane?]

Why would the brass care if a drone shoots a drone? The entire point is to remove people so as to make war crimes easier to justify.

 

[KidTDragon]

Military brass should be forced to watch Terminator, Star Trek's 'Ultimate Computer' episode, Colossus: The Forbin Project, etc.

What makes you think they haven't? It's more likely that they saw them and took away the wrong lessons.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

The only lesson they learned was "lots of guns win fights."

 

[NovaSaber]

 

[PrimalxConvoy]

When the British government treats its foreign allies WHO FOUGHT FOR US like disposal items...

Elite Afghan troops face return to Taliban after UK 'betrayal'

About 200 British-trained special forces soldiers are in danger as Pakistan expels undocumented foreigners.

www.bbc.com

They also tried to do it before:

Kabul embassy's Gurkha guards face removal from UK

A group of Nepalese men who worked guarding UK officials in Kabul are being made to leave the UK.

www.bbc.com

 

[PrimalxConvoy]

Rina Gonoi: Three Japanese ex-soldiers found guilty of sexual assault

The landmark verdict comes after a 24-year-old soldier went public with accusations against her ex-colleagues.

www.bbc.com

Rastafarian soldier wins racism case against Army

Dwight Pile-Gray, an ex-guardsman, says a colleague doubted he was a soldier due to his appearance.

www.bbc.com