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Personally I'd rather have the Predators over Machine Wars, but making the tooling for one would mean having it for the other, so it'd be easy enough to do both.
Mostly I just want a Skyquake that won't disintegrate. Legacy Dreadwing is most of the way there already, just give him a new head and weapon.
Mostly I just want a Skyquake that won't disintegrate. Legacy Dreadwing is most of the way there already, just give him a new head and weapon.
Wasn't the first use of that Legacy mold AS Skyquake? Albeit with a lackluster headsculpt.
This Skyquake:
The mold was definitely designed with elements of both G1 and Prime Skyquake, it even has the connecting ports for the smaller jets.
I'm shocked that 1, Hasbro put Dreadwing and Skyquake out so close together being the same mold and 2, we have not gotten a repaint of that mold as MW Starscream, King Atlas, or Skyquake yet.
Machine Wars line ideas
Optimus Prime- Legacy Motormaster
Prowl- Legacy Dragstrip
Mirage- Legacy Dragstrip
Hubcap- AotP Swindle
Hoist- AotP Swindle
Sandstorm- Gen Selects Rotorstorm
Megatron- Legacy Evolution Needlenose
Megaplex- Legacy Evolution Needlenose
Starscream- Legacy Evolution Skyquake
Thundercracker- Legacy United Slipstream
Skywarp- Legacy United Slipstream
Soundwave- ER Doubledealer
Optimus Prime- Legacy Motormaster
Prowl- Legacy Dragstrip
Mirage- Legacy Dragstrip
Hubcap- AotP Swindle
Hoist- AotP Swindle
Sandstorm- Gen Selects Rotorstorm
Megatron- Legacy Evolution Needlenose
Megaplex- Legacy Evolution Needlenose
Starscream- Legacy Evolution Skyquake
Thundercracker- Legacy United Slipstream
Skywarp- Legacy United Slipstream
Soundwave- ER Doubledealer
Which is a capsule I would mostly not touch, becuase of the Autobot Combiner idea.
You could probably get away with Optimus as a Legacy Laser Prime retool (and have it be a double deep cut since the MW Optimus box art used Laser Prime's art as a base) except that, apparently, Legacy Motormaster already has the Thunderclash tooling worked out for it. So getting MW Optimus from that is the path of least resistance.
And while they could do Prowl/Mirage and Hubcap/Hoist from KI Mirage and Legacy Scraphook, that would leave the capsule with a combiner torso and frame with no limbs. So why not do the MW Autobot cars and trucks up as combiner limbs and toss in an extra "MW Autobot combiner" mode?
All in all I'd probably go all in
You could probably get away with Optimus as a Legacy Laser Prime retool (and have it be a double deep cut since the MW Optimus box art used Laser Prime's art as a base) except that, apparently, Legacy Motormaster already has the Thunderclash tooling worked out for it. So getting MW Optimus from that is the path of least resistance.
And while they could do Prowl/Mirage and Hubcap/Hoist from KI Mirage and Legacy Scraphook, that would leave the capsule with a combiner torso and frame with no limbs. So why not do the MW Autobot cars and trucks up as combiner limbs and toss in an extra "MW Autobot combiner" mode?
All in all I'd probably go all in
Sure if you want "Botcon Close enough" Sets.
Eh, I think all the mould choices I picked would be closer than BotCon's attempt. Most would only need new heads. AotP Swindle into Hoist/Hubcap would probably be the one requiring the most retooling (probably... haven't actually seen the mould yet but I assume jeep to tow truck would require more than a headswap).
Lets see, your forcing them to be a combiner that never existed, and to do that using molds that do not really look like the characters, other then a vague "same car if you squint" element. With you also thinking:
This:
Or This:
Could be remolded into this:
I doubt a retail exclusive capsule will accept/support a Commander Class toy.
I frankly don't like the Scrapbook toy, and would have preferred the ER Hoist mold (warts and all) for RiD01 Tow-line, so of course I am against Hook's inclusion for Hubcap and hoist but can understand and accept if they're used.
I frankly don't like the Scrapbook toy, and would have preferred the ER Hoist mold (warts and all) for RiD01 Tow-line, so of course I am against Hook's inclusion for Hubcap and hoist but can understand and accept if they're used.
I think Legacy Downstrip with a new head would be a closer match to MW Prowl/Mirage then PRiD Dreadwing was to Metroplex
Like I said, you could pull it off by making Prowl/Mirage and Hubcap/Hoist moulds closer to their originals, but that would leave Optimus as a combiner torso/frame without limbs.
I mean I guess you could just not advertise it. Just show off the truck mode and robot/base modes on the box, but that's a lot of sacrificed functionality.
Unless you use something else that isn't a combiner torso for Optimus, but that would add more necessary retooling.
Honestly, I forgot the ER Hoist mould existed
But yeah you could also use it for MW Hoist/Hubcap's figures if you weren't going the combiner route. The reason I went with Motormaster is that, allegedly, it already has Thunderclash retooling worked into the mould so the work to make it look like MW Optimus is already done.
Laser Prime could work in a pinch with relatively minor retooling as well, and avoids the "orphaned combiner torso" issue, but I was just thinking of how to best take advantage of retooling that (allegedly) already exists.
Look, did I miss something? I don't think you and I have ever said a cross word to each other, and I certainly have no ill will towards you, but you're coming awfully hard, and rather snippy, at me for something I whipped up on a whim after work.
Still, I'll answer your (implied) question. The head mould. It makes or breaks anything. PRiD Dreadwing has the right body shape, but I can't buy it as Megatron- or his clone- when his head doesn't look like Megatron.
But take a F1 racecar robot, give it a new head to call back to the original, and yeah. That works (for me anyway) a hell of a lot better, even if the robot mode isn't exact.
And AGAIN you could do MW Mirage/Prowl from the KI Mirage mould w/a new head and have it be perfect, you're just potentially leaving an orphaned combiner torso somewhere else in the line.
And if you just don't like the idea of a combiner in a MW set, that's cool! I don't really care myself, and it's certainly not my first choice. I just spitballed some ideas with the conceit of using Motormaster as MW Prime. Is it perfect? No, I came up with it as a way to procrastinate before grading last night's homework assignments. If it's not to your liking, that's cool! Just.... eat a G-ddamn Snickers, ok?
anyhow
Metroplex's buddies
Babyface Cy-Kill is best Cy-Kill
Galaxy Shuttle!
And the licenced NASA dudes...
Metroplex's buddies
Babyface Cy-Kill is best Cy-Kill
Galaxy Shuttle!
And the licenced NASA dudes...
1. I can often come off meaner then I mean to in text, I partly blame my autism becuase I am blunt and without hearing my tone of voice its harder to tell my tone.
2. That said the past two days have not been great for me, I am not in the best of moods, which is likely makign my blunt tone worse then it is.
However; to me the body matters as much as the head. For years people complained that Drag Strip was the go to repaint for Mirage, becuase they look nothing alike. Even with a new head, the bodies wont look right for these hypothetical repaints. Least Megaplex gets the body right.
And I agree they would likely use Tow-Line for the MW line; which I also do not like since despite the head, it doesn;t get the body look right.
Its also why I'm not overly fond of the Dlx Jets.
First of all, it's all good. My apologies if that came off poor on my end. Last few days haven't been super great for me either, and I sort of just came to the MW set idea as a pleasant distraction. I knew it wasn't ideal as I was making it, but I had a central conceit in mind and tried to work around that. Still, it was just a fun diversion and to see it get really blunt and persistent pushback was like... did I say something wrong? What's happening? That and the last few days didn't put me in the best headspace to respond.
Anyway, again, my apologies if I snapped back overly harsh.
As for the mould choices... yeah I get that about the body. It's just that in a lot of ways my mind's still dialed into the old way of doing things, where a mould would get a new paintjob and head sculpt, and that was deemed good enough even if the rest of the body didn't match. So even today, when they do really dedicated work to bring a mould closer to the intended homage, I'm kinda blown away.
Assuming there's no need to force a combiner into things...I think MW Hoist/Hubcap work best as the ER Hoist mould. The head is close enough, and the body is blocky enough to recall the original. KI Mirage is the go-to for Prowl/Mirage.
I went with Megatron and Megaplex from Needlenose because that mould can dock with the Legacy Skyquake/Dreadwing mould. So if you do MW Starscream from Skyquake/Dreadwing, you could have Megatron dock with him. Which isn't strictly MW accurate, but does call back to the cancelled Megatron/Starscream set from G2 that became Beast Wars II BB/Starscream (among others).
If you wanted that "jet nosecone and cockpit become the chest" design though... you're probably looking at the ER Seeker mould, or maybe even a Jihaxus remould.
Anyhow, speaking of Machine Wars...
