Transformers: Age of the Primes toyline discussion || update: Voyager Skybyte and Heatwave

PrimalxConvoy

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They both look good, especially Skybyte, as I think this is the first time the shark mode is straight (and not bending vertically or horizontally)? However, the 'blue' in that picture looks more purple to me and thus more like Hellwarp under that lighting.
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Heatwave isn't too bad for a remold of Bulkhead.
 

PrimalxConvoy

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Legacy Liokaiser incoming...
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Release Date: Fall 2026

Retail Priace $299.99 USD

From the abyssal darkness of the Death Zone, the elite combat team known as the Chest-force emerged. Consisting of six powerful Decepticon bots—Leozak, Gaihawk, Ellbat, Jaruga, Killbison, and Drillhorn—the Chest-force is determined to aid Deathsaurus in his bid to defeat Star Saber and the Autobots. The Chest-force comes together to form the gestalt Liokaiser, a vicious combiner bot with the power of invisibility.

Devoted fans banded together to fund Victory Saber and Deathsaurus figures* through previous HasLab projects; now, the saga of Transformers: Victory, the Japanese anime G1 spinoff, continues: Powerful, merciless, and near-unstoppable, the Liokaiser Combiner is the next HasLab project.

Premium 12-inch Liokaiser combiner figure inspired by the Japanese anime, Transformers: Victory.
Separates into 6 Voyager-scale, 5.5-inch (14 cm) converting Chest-force figures, each with a removable Chest Animal that converts into a weapon accessory

Initial offering includes six 5.5-inch figures and 6 accessories.

This crowdfunded project will run from February 7, 2025 to 11:59PM ET on March 24, 2025. We need 10,000 backers to fund the initial offering. If successful, the product is estimated to begin shipping in Fall 2026.

HasLab products have a surcharge to cover shipping costs. For the Transformers Legacy HasLab Liokaiser Combiner campaign, you'll see a $15.99 surcharge when you check out, based on shipping destination. This is waived for Hasbro Pulse Premium members.

*Previous HasLab items no longer available.

TRANSFORMERS and HASBRO and all related trademarks and logos are trademarks of Hasbro, Inc.

© 2025 Hasbro. All rights reserved. Manufactured under license from TOMY Company, Ltd.

LIOKAISER: CHEST-FORCE COMBINER

We heard fans loud and clear: Liokaiser was a top choice for our next Haslab. The G1 Liokaiser was a Japanese exclusive that was highly sought-after; we decided it was high time we brought it back around with animation-accurate deco and sculpt. In his combined form, our HasLab Liokaiser figure stands at an impressive 12 inches tall, to scale with the prior HasLab Deathsaurus and Victory Saber figures. The figure features over 20 points of articulation for creating epic battle stances and iconic poses from the anime.

LEOZAK: THE COMMANDER (HEAD AND UPPER TORSO OF LIOKAISER)

Commander of the Chest-force, Leozak may have his own motives (namely: becoming the leader of all Decepticons) but his skill and smarts make him invaluable to Deathsaurus.

Alt mode: JET
Chest Animal: LION
Chest animal alt mode: BLASTER
Liokaiser combiner role: HEAD AND UPPER TORSO

GAIHAWK: THE DESTROYER (RIGHT ARM OF LIOKAISER)

Cold-hearted and aggressive, Gaihawk cares little for the welfare of others—especially those who stand in the way of victory. Speedier than even Leozak, Gaihawk gives a whole new meaning to "right hand man."

Alt mode: JET
Chest Animal: HAWK
Chest animal alt mode: BLASTER
Liokaiser combiner role: RIGHT ARM

ELLBAT: THE SPY (LEFT ARM OF LIOKAISER)

Famously underhanded, Ellbat is a sneak with a silver tongue. He believes he'd be a better Chest-force leader than Leozak, but his tendency to pass blame hasn't earned him any supporters—yet.

Alt mode: JET
Chest animal: BAT
Chest animal alt mode: BLASTER
Liokaiser combiner role: LEFT ARM

JARUGA: THE SOLDIER (LOWER TORSO OF LIOKAISER)

Loyal, determined, and diligent in his pursuit of Autobot destruction, Jaruga may not be the brightest or most self-motivated member of the team, but you can't fault a guy for being good at following orders, can you?

Alt mode: OFFROAD RACECAR
Chest animal: JAGUAR
Chest animal alt mode: BLASTER
Liokaiser combiner role: LOWER TORSO

KILLBISON: THE WARMONGER (RIGHT LEG OF LIOKAISER)

There's nothing Killbison loves more than a good battle (except, maybe, a good victory). Attacking, storming, assailing, invading—Killbison is in, and will (probably) do a bang-up job.

Alt mode: TANK
Chest animal: BULL
Chest animal alt mode: BLASTER
Liokaiser combiner role: RIGHT LEG

DRILLHORN: THE STRATEGIST (LEFT LEG OF LIOKAISER)

Battle-hardened and stubborn, Drillhorn prides himself on knowing the ins and outs of combat. His veteran knowledge mostly serves him well—but sometimes his overreliance on it can make him as much of a liability as an asset.

Alt mode: DRILL TANK
Chest animal: RHINO
Chest animal alt mode: BLASTER
Liokaiser combiner role: LEFT LEG

A GESTALT WEAPON FOR THE DECEPTICONS

Designed with intricate details for fans of the Japanese animated series, the base offering will make a truly awesome addition to any collection. But with extra backer power, we can unlock additional pieces that will really take the offering to the next level.

Tier 1: Deathcobra
Tier 2: Electromagnetic Nunchaku
Tier 3: Display bases

TIER 1 UNLOCK – 13,000 BACKERS: DEATHCOBRA

Ah, poor Deathcobra. Tapped by Leozak to replace the treacherous Ellbat as the sixth member of the Chest-force, Deathcobra was killed by Ellbat (er—by the Micromasters! That's right, Holi did it!) to prevent Deathcobra from taking Ellbat's place in the Chest-force.

13,000 backers will unlock the almost-member of the Chest-force team in all his detailed glory—the first time he's ever appeared in a toy. Deathcobra figure can become an alternate left arm for Liokaiser (take that, Ellbat!) or a true 7th team member as a shoulder cannon weapon.

Alt mode: HELICOPTER
Chest animal: COBRA
Chest animal alt mode: BLASTER
Liokaiser combiner role: LEFT ARM OR SHOULDER CANNON

TIER 2 UNLOCK – 16,000 BACKERS: ELECTROMAGNETIC NUNCHAKU

Whether used as spears, tasers, or nunchaku, Electromagnetic Nunchaku are versatile weapons employed by the Chest-force in countless battles against the Autobots. When the team members combine into Liokaiser, their Electromagnetic Nunchaku combine too, creating an even more powerful weapon.

16,000 backers will unlock a set of 6 Electromagnetic Nunchaku spear accessories that the Chest-force figures can hold. The spears can be combined to create a larger weapon for the Liokaiser figure to wield.

TIER 3 UNLOCK – 18,000 BACKERS: DISPLAY BASES

We know you want to show off your figures in all their epic poses, so with 18,000 backers, we will also be able to include 3 display bases. Use the bases to display the jets and recreate the iconic intro shot from the anime. Merge the bases together to create a grandiose support platform for Liokaiser. Bonus: store extra pieces inside the bases to keep your collection looking neat and tidy.
 

Sabrblade

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Video of the Hasbro Pulse panel at MegaCon:


Sounds like the video missed the Liokaiser reveal part of the panel as the beginning of the video sees them talking about Liokaiser like they've already shown it off. They also keep mispronouncing his name as "Leokaiser" instead of "Liokaiser".

Sky-Byte is very articulated in shark mode, they wanted to replicate his cartoony "Muppet" qualities from the cartoon.

Heatwave is a "partial" of Legacy Bulkhead. The fact that the mold looks like it was intended for Heatwave all along was not intentional and was a happy accident. Comes with his axe and fire hose blaster.

Timelines: Hearts of Steel - 2-pack of Optimus Prime and Starscream

Second 2-pack consisting of Megatron and Bumblebee

"Transformers: Timelines" will be a new Pulse-exclusive line in which the same four characters will be released every year, but with a different theme centered around different time periods with different altmodes. So next year we'll get another different set of Optimus, Megatron, Starscream, and Bumblebee, and next year's theme for 2026 has already been picked, but they won't tell us what it is yet. This year the theme is the "Hearts of Steel" comic mini-series from 2006.

They hope to eventually get a fan vote going for what the theme for 2027 will be, so fan could pick what time period the same four characters will be in.

The goal is at least two releases each year, but it will always be the same four characters of Optimus, Megs, Screamer, and Bee each year. "But, if it does well, there's no reason that you couldn't see the rest of the Seekers in Legacy or anything like that." All Deluxe scale, too.

Space Bridge teases - all preexisting art, no actual toy pics all will be on display in physical reveals next month at New York Toy Fair:
  • Target-exclusive Studio Series 86 3-pack of Perceptor, Ramhorn, and Ratbat - Ramhorn is all new, Ratbat will have boosters, Perceptor will have some extra tooling to bulk him up to better match his animation design.
  • Devastation Troop-Builder pack - Elite Decepticon Ground Unit and Seeker, "partials" of Earthrise Runabout/Runamuck and the Earthrise Seeker mold, com with new weapons and heads.
  • Carnivac VS "Fistiron" - Got around the "Ironfist" trademark issues by just inverting his name, "we know what his name is supposed to be", no talk of what molds they use.
  • Sandstorm VS Slugslinger - "Handsome Face Sandstorm" is what they call him internally, it's the cartoon face with no mouthplate, did not talk about if Slugslinger is still a Headmaster or not
  • Cybertron Sideways - Got a big reaction from the audience, no real details given.
  • Cybertron Excellion - redeco of Cybertron Hot Shot.

Q&A session:

Liokaiser does have ankle hinges for enhanced posing.

When Polar Claw?!! "Eventually". He comes up every once in a while. It's always hard when they're not a mainstay character who showed up in a show. But Polar Claw is a definite possibility.

Evan confirmed that Carnivac will not have his Pretender shell, is a "partial" of TR Wolfwire, and will retain the Headmaster gimmick instead of the shell gimmick. He also "100% confirmed" that they fixed the major breakage issue the Wolfwire mold had.

General question about the design process for figures. A complex but interesting answer is given (watch the video at around 14:50). It's a case-by-case thing, but the whole process takes about 18 months.

Marauder Megatron is definitely possible. They did Wasp, after all. They did look at Marauder Megatron for inspiration when designing the Studio Series Bumblebee Movie Concept Megatron. They're always looking at that stuff that never made it to market and it's definitely possible.

No Centurion version of Hearts of Steel Bumblebee, but... "folks out on the internet will probably have you covered."

Steamboat Shockwave has a chance because it's something Mark wanted to make "really badly". At one point, he was trying to get it into mainline, but it didn't make sense with everything he had going on. What Timelines is right now is almost like a test, and if any of these segments do well enough, you can definitely see them dipping a toe back into those universes and timelines, and maybe then they'll start showing up more in mainline. There was a Prowl, there was a Ratchet, there were many great designs in Hearts of Steel that could show up again.

Question about Gamer Edition pulling from other games besides Devastation and the WFC/FOC games. Evan says it's possible and has been asked before about a Titan-sized Thunderwing from the Prime game, to which he both laughs but also thinks is a possibility. He also brings up the games based on the live-action movies and the unique characters those games had, like the movie games' version of Shockwave and Warpath. He even jokes about the old Commodore 64 game or the giant floating Decepticon shield boss from the Mystery of Convoy game.

Question about having to cut anything out of lines when creating them. Evan says he can't think of any specifics off the top of his head but does state that that has definitely happened. He does cite an instance where a character had to be cut once or twice because they couldn't get it to fit into the scale that they had thought was appropriate. Like something that was meant to be a Deluxe and couldn't fit as a Deluxe and so had to be a Voyager instead, but still had to wait until later because all the Voyager slots were filled up at the time. It happens pretty constantly. But there's usually a rough idea going into it, and it's when you think it can fit only for it to later be proven wrong that it ends up not fitting at all. But most things do usually see the light of day a little bit later.

Question asked about a rumor that Hasbro will be doing a Leader-scaled version of IDW Fort Max, possibly from the Armada Megatron mold. Evan confirms that that's just a rumor and doesn't know where it came from, but he thinks the idea would be great. They'd also have to do a Rung, though, since "everybody needs their therapist". But he'd like to dig into more of those IDW designs, "they're definitely on the table".

Joked about the DJD: "It's a little hard to sell into marketing about a character that turns into an electric chair, OKAY?! Just a little difficult!" Nickel's probably as close as they can get to doing another DJD character besides Tarn.

Question about a Studio Series Dispensor. "The Mountain Dew robot?! Ah, that's a licensing nightmare." LOL Definitely possible, definitely on the table. There's also some anniversaries coming up, and some earlier Studio Series movie characters might get redos since "they weren't done as well back then when they should have been."

Question about the Timelines fan vote, if it might add one more Autobot and one more Decepticon to the lineup. Evan thinks at some point in the future that's definitely the plan. He stans Ironhide.

Jokes made by audience and Evan about a Broadside that turns into a U.S.S. Flagg. "Oh, sure, it fit in a garage." Totally non-serious.

Question about making figures more customizable. Selects Antagony with the Scavenger head mentioned as an example, but they asked if figures could be more largely disassemble-able, like with less pins and more screws, to allow fans to color-swap parts between redecoed figures of the same mold. Evan says they don't really think too much about the customization market but takes it into consideration as something maybe can think about going forward. But he's pretty sure they wouldn't release something that is just "matte gray, primered, ready to go", but maybe that's something they'll look into. He's pretty intrigued by this question.

"More Mini-Cons, please?" Yes. "As we keep diving deeper into Armada, I think we owe you all more Mini-Cons." He thinks that's something they'll definitely get out to us. "Gotta get the Combiner Mini-Cons out there, at least."

If there was to be another new release of Cybertron Optimus Prime, it would probably be a new one instead of a rerelease of Siege Galaxy Upgrade. That's something that both Hasbro and Takara are pushing for, as they want to recreate the combining limb gimmick and the backpack gimmick. But it's not something to expect this year, but maybe some point in the future.

Question about the Thirteen toys, their designs and altmodes. Evan says Mark's handling the Thirteen and always starts with the Covenant of Primus book as it's his favorite lore book, but he also digs deep into the other versions of the Thirteen out there. There is a cohesive vision behind them. We'll get some this year and the rest next year. There's a lot of deep cuts for them.

Sky-Byte's gun only stores inside his mouth in shark mode. When not in his mouth, there's nowhere else to store it.

End of panel.
 

Shadewing

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"Transformers: Timelines" will be a new Pulse-exclusive line in which the same four characters will be released every year, but with a different theme centered around different time periods with different altmodes. So next year we'll get another different set of Optimus, Megatron, Starscream, and Bumblebee, and next year's theme for 2026 has already been picked, but they won't tell us what it is yet. This year the theme is the "Hearts of Steel" comic mini-series from 2006.

No Centurion version of Hearts of Steel Bumblebee, but... "folks out on the internet will probably have you covered."

Steamboat Shockwave has a chance because it's something Mark wanted to make "really badly". At one point, he was trying to get it into mainline, but it didn't make sense with everything he had going on. What Timelines is right now is almost like a test, and if any of these segments do well enough, you can definitely see them dipping a toe back into those universes and timelines, and maybe then they'll start showing up more in mainline. There was a Prowl, there was a Ratchet, there were many great designs in Hearts of Steel that could show up again.

This kinda annoys me. I get using the 4 most popular characters to try to experiment with, But that also kinda sounds boring to me tbh; and HoS has SO many designs that it should just be a Subline like Shattered Glass was. Also kinda surprised that Centurion isn't something they planned for like the possibilty of the Seekers in the main line.
 

lastmaximal

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I’m more hoping that the “timelines” thing will ultimately bring us things like War Within or Transtech designs.
I would absolutely love a whole War Within subline that isn't Titaniums. That Optimus design is one of those things that defines that period for me.

Outside of that there's the Dreamwave G1 Ongoing -- if that's how we get a Sunstorm and a Bumper, so be it.
 

lastmaximal

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This kinda annoys me. I get using the 4 most popular characters to try to experiment with, But that also kinda sounds boring to me tbh; and HoS has SO many designs that it should just be a Subline like Shattered Glass was. Also kinda surprised that Centurion isn't something they planned for like the possibilty of the Seekers in the main line.
This was the biggest cold water pouring about that announcement, to me. Sure, I get wanting to play it safe with your flagship characters. But "here's year three of the same four dudes" is already boring upon first announcement. If this were Evergreen/Authentics or whatever I wouldn't blink since that's the point of that, but the sheer potential left on the table here is stunning. The only people this really benefits are people who collect those characters specifically.

If not for this rule, by their own account the incredibly interesting steamboat Shockwave design might have gotten a shot. The Megatron isn't bad, but I'd much rather have seen Shockwave here.

Not only does this rule out stories that lack one or more of these characters (unless they throw money away on tooling a "concept" homaging something that doesn't exist, or just make something entirely new up), but the usual "we'll do other stuff people might want" being paywalled behind "but buy this first" is bleh.

Dipping into alternate universes only to see exactly the same four guys every time is some monkey's paw stuff. Imagine Marvel's What If cartoon with the same four characters ONLY from every alternate universe in each episode.
 

lastmaximal

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What exactly is new about making a new Optimus, Megatron, Starscream and Bumblebee every year? They practically already do that!
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Except it won't be Scourge, because only four Transformers exist

And not even "to the general public", because the general public has never heard of Hearts of Steel or whatever else they're going to mine

(it would be hilarious if they eventually started mining other "evergreen bestsellers plus assortment fillers" side lines for this since they're sure to have these four. Generations style Bot Shots!)
 

LBD "Nytetrayn"

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They could probably work in ways to fold the forearm kibble up more.

I'm fine with him keeping the forearm shields, just make them peg into place rather than relying on joint friction. One of mine's has loosened up a bit over the years.

Why not both? Forearm kibble that unfolds out into a shield? (Or two? Maybe make them sort of combine if you detach them into one big shield...)

I liked Hearts of Steel as a fun one-off "What If?" series. And then IDW1 made it all part of Shockwave's master plan for some reason. Sorry if you liked the idea, setting, and characters, idiot, those weren't Optimus Prime and Bumblebee at all!

I thought it was supposed to be both? Like, there's a HoS universe where they are those characters, but there's also a version of those events that happened in IDW1's past that was all Shockwave playing with his dolls or w/e.

Question about a Studio Series Dispensor. "The Mountain Dew robot?! Ah, that's a licensing nightmare." LOL Definitely possible, definitely on the table. There's also some anniversaries coming up, and some earlier Studio Series movie characters might get redos since "they weren't done as well back then when they should have been."

Hey, that's what Collaborative is for, isn't it?
 

lastmaximal

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That's it, thank you!

And thank you for this writeup.

I do hope we get more redos or at least package refreshes for Studio Series. Maybe even Buzzworthy style takes that replace the clear plastic, because the tiny connections and fragility concerns keep me from revisiting and enjoying older ones like Barricade and Lockdown.
 

Shadewing

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This was the biggest cold water pouring about that announcement, to me. Sure, I get wanting to play it safe with your flagship characters. But "here's year three of the same four dudes" is already boring upon first announcement. If this were Evergreen/Authentics or whatever I wouldn't blink since that's the point of that, but the sheer potential left on the table here is stunning. The only people this really benefits are people who collect those characters specifically.

If not for this rule, by their own account the incredibly interesting steamboat Shockwave design might have gotten a shot. The Megatron isn't bad, but I'd much rather have seen Shockwave here.

Not only does this rule out stories that lack one or more of these characters (unless they throw money away on tooling a "concept" homaging something that doesn't exist, or just make something entirely new up), but the usual "we'll do other stuff people might want" being paywalled behind "but buy this first" is bleh.

Dipping into alternate universes only to see exactly the same four guys every time is some monkey's paw stuff. Imagine Marvel's What If cartoon with the same four characters ONLY from every alternate universe in each episode.

Exactly, it it was a change up, Even if it Op and Megatron as the constants, but the other two rotate out if would be more interesting. The comics don't always focus on the same 4, so the toys shouldn't either.

I'm fine with HoS Megatron getting a toy before Shockwave, because, asaik He's never gotten a toy. Optimus, Bee, Starscream, and Shockwave has through "people on the internet" as they put it. Also them all being Deluxes really Hurts Prime here imo, and probably would hurt Shockwave too.

The design I really want from HoS is the Insectrain. That's one of the coolest concepts they had.
 

Dake

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I would think the plan could work like: 2026 we get the main four from HoS. If they do well, in 2027 we get those 4 from WWi and a couple more characters from HoS. 2028? The main 4 from whatever is next, and another HoS and another WWi, and so on.

In any case, I'm going to be selling off my entire collection in 2026, but these four are the first bunch in a bit where I find myself thinking, "Aw man... I'd like to have them."
 


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