Harris-Walz / Dems

[The Mighty Mollusk]

Trump has been screaming that he won since he lost the last one. The big difference now is that he's not in a position to interfere with the law putting down his cult riots.

This is going to get ugly either way.

 

[Teufel]

A Muslim host wanted to talk about Gaza in an interview, but Team Kamala shot it down ahead of time. Instead she showed up and talked about how good bacon is.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1853498411934228541

 

[Axaday]

That's not a great look.

Mollusk, I hadn't thought about it before. It'd be kinda funny if he called out another mob and Biden just had them all arrested on the spot.

 

[wonko the sane?]

That's not a great look.

Mollusk, I hadn't thought about it before. It'd be kinda funny if he called out another mob and Biden just had them all arrested on the spot.

If another mob tried: there's no one preventing reinforcements from being ordered. The mob would be rounded up and overwhelmed and never make it inside. Because biden would indeed have them all rounded up and arrested on the spot. That's one of his jobs.

 

[Axaday]

Facebook showed me a post I made 4 years ago that told how many early votes had already been cast. I had been thinking about it today and I figured that because of the pandemic, there would be a lot less early voting this year. But it has actually already blown 2020 away. More than 50% more.

 

[G.B.Blackrock]

While it's entirely possible that a lot of people voted by mail for the first time because of the pandemic, most people who vote by mail have been happy to do so for reasons that have nothing to do with pandemic-adjacent health concerns.

 

[Axaday]

If another mob tried: there's no one preventing reinforcements from being ordered. The mob would be rounded up and overwhelmed and never make it inside. Because biden would indeed have them all rounded up and arrested on the spot. That's one of his jobs.

How creative they are will be an interesting show. I'm sure Trump won't publicly pressure the VP not to certify the results this time. Surely there will not be anyone willing to be a fake elector. I am sure random Joes on Facebook and Truth Social will say the voting machines got rigged, but I don't think Fox hosts, lawyers, or politicians will. It might not be possible to get a mob in DC. Unless they have some really fresh ideas, this time might just be a lot of whining like it was intended to be in 2016. That is...if he loses, which doesn't feel as super sure to me right now as it did the last few months.

 

[wonko the sane?]

If the down ballot stuff has been as successful as the "get out the vote" effort: there won't be an opportunity to either contest the votes, or have a traitor to not certify the election. Harris will be veep until the inauguration, so it's her job to certify and she won't bow to republican lies. And the senate is seated on the 3rd, and hopefully it'll be hakim jeffries as majority leader.

 

[Axaday]

and hopefully it'll be hakim jeffries as majority leader.

You are forgetting, it takes FOREVER to elect a Speaker.

 

[Ungnome]

Takes forever for the current Republicans at least

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

Because the current Republicans don't WANT to actually get anything done. Wasting time while complaining that a Democrat president isn't doing anything is the entire point.

 

[wonko the sane?]

You are forgetting, it takes FOREVER to elect a Speaker.

Takes forever for the current Republicans at least

To quote Stan lee: "Nuff said".

 

[Axaday]

Last word I see is that NV and PA are polling 50-50. It doesn't matter who wins NV. Unless there are unexpected upsets (sometimes it happens), Pennsylvania decides.

 

[Steevy Maximus]

How creative they are will be an interesting show. I'm sure Trump won't publicly pressure the VP not to certify the results this time. Surely there will not be anyone willing to be a fake elector. I am sure random Joes on Facebook and Truth Social will say the voting machines got rigged, but I don't think Fox hosts, lawyers, or politicians will. It might not be possible to get a mob in DC. Unless they have some really fresh ideas, this time might just be a lot of whining like it was intended to be in 2016. That is...if he loses, which doesn't feel as super sure to me right now as it did the last few months.

There is NO chance that Fox and the “mainstream” right wing media are going to walk down that rabbit hole again. It already cost Fox over $750million and and the lawsuits and appeals aren’t done with Smartmatic or filings against all the other right wing medias that Dominion went after.

And this time, Trump doesn’t have the Presidential Office to protect his ass if he blames voting machines if he loses.

 

[KidTDragon]

He does have shady electors, though:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/04/trump-fake-electors-return-election-denial-00186977

 

[Rhinox]

due to family issues, i will not be able to vote this go around. trying to have hope, but there isn't much left in me anymore.

 

[Axaday]

NBC nationwide exit polling: 73% answered that Democracy is threatened. I understand that the GOP can use that talking point too, but I think it is much more used by Democrats.

 

[Axaday]

I may have counted North Carolina out too soon. For what it's worth, the governor of North Carolina thinks Kamala will win the state. If she does, she can win with Nevada and without Pennsylvania.

Edit - An of course that weird Iowa poll over the weekend may not have been crazy. It could be an indicator that pollsters concerned with underestimating Trump have been overestimating him and Kamala is going to flood him. My fun wish is that Trump gets his lowest electoral score yet.

 

[Axaday]

I did my 5th Grade Presidential report on George HW Bush, who had just been elected and it was likely at that time that I took the impression that the VP being elected to continue after the President finishes was normal. It is actually fairly unusual. 1/3 of our Presidents were Vice President first, but most of those don't fit my criteria. Eight (John Tyler, Millard Fillmore, Andrew Johnson, Chester Arthur, Teddy Roosevelt, Calvin Coolidge, Harry Truman, and Lyndon Johnson) became President because the President died. Thomas Jefferson was that odd early example where the Vice President ran against the President and won because they had never been running mates. And Gerald Ford became President when Nixon resigned. Nixon, himself, and Biden don't quite fit my criteria. Nixon was Eisenhower's VP and ran to succeed him, but he lost. Biden didn't run when Obama finished. Both cam back after a gap. So how often has the Vice President run and succeeded their President? 3 times. John Adams (1796), Martin van Burn (1837), George HW Bush (1988). It has never happened twice in the same century.

 

[NovaSaber]

The current vice-President running for President and not winning hasn't happened all that many times either, though.