Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

[Teufel]

Have to point out Trump says they didn't listen to Biden, then does a Biden impersonation saying don't attack the nuclear or oil, and the Israelis did not in fact bomb the nuclear or oil. What's the sabotage you're alleging?

 

[PrimalxConvoy]

 

[Thylacine 2000]

The same Jeremy Scahill has spent all year denying and/or making excuses for rape while elevating utter lunatic "sources".

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prima donna, with all its overtones of good and evil

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[PrimalxConvoy]

...Scahill..is a founding editor of the online news publication The Intercept [and] has won numerous awards, including the George Polk Award (twice), numerous Project Censored Awards, and the Izzy Award, named after investigative journalist I. F. Stone. He was among the few Western reporters to gain access to the Abu Ghraib prison when Saddam Hussein was in power and his story on the emptying of that prison won a 2003 Golden Reel Award from The National Federation of Community Broadcasters. In 2013, he was awarded the Windham–Campbell Literature Prize, one of the richest literary awards in the world...

(Source: - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Scahill )

Overall, we rate The Intercept progressive Left Biased based on story selection that routinely favors the left. We also rate them as Mostly Factual in reporting rather than High due to previous fabricated work and censorship of writers.

(Source: - https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-intercept/ )

”The New York Times has grave, grave mischaracterizations, sins of omission, reliance on people who have no forensic or criminology credentials to be asserting that there was a systematic rape campaign put in place here,” says Scahill, who criticizes the newspaper for not issuing any corrections for their flawed reporting...

(Source: - https://www.democracynow.org/2024/3/1/nyt_anat_schwartz/ )

Overall, we rate Democracy Now Left biased based on story selection that consistently favors the left and High for factual reporting due to a clean fact check record.

(Source: - https://www.democracynow.org/2024/3/1/nyt_anat_schwartz/ )

From my (admittedly rather limited) search, the information seem to be from award winning and/or legitimate sources.

 

[Thylacine 2000]

We went through this several pages ago. There is far better evidence of rape committed by Hamas on 10/7 than there ever was for rape committed by Donald Trump, Bret Kavanagh, Bill Cosby, Jerry Sandusky, etc. Read the links I provided to see the rhetorical tricks Scahill relies on for his denialism. His interview on Democracy Now is just him repeating himself. The entire concept that "maybe the Assadist bootlickers at Grayzone, plus Electronic Slave Auction err uhh I mean Intifada, are not good sources in general, let alone for this in particular" gets no hearing at all. He's not going to bring up that his sources are insane and neither are the hosts. So I mention it here, for you to notice and think about in a way that Mediafactcheck.org won't do for you.

 

[Pale Rider]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1851085909435039789

 

[PrimalxConvoy]

We went through this several pages ago. There is far better evidence of rape committed by Hamas on 10/7 than there ever was for rape committed by Donald Trump, Bret Kavanagh, Bill Cosby, Jerry Sandusky, etc. Read the links I provided to see the rhetorical tricks Scahill relies on for his denialism. His interview on Democracy Now is just him repeating himself. The entire concept that "maybe the Assadist bootlickers at Grayzone, plus Electronic Slave Auction err uhh I mean Intifada, are not good sources in general, let alone for this in particular" gets no hearing at all. He's not going to bring up that his sources are insane and neither are the hosts. So I mention it here, for you to notice and think about in a way that Mediafactcheck.org won't do for you.

Thank you, however I remember you also stated that evidence you gave to a different poster was from "one of the world's most respected newspapers", which seems to be correct. Well, I've also used a well-trusted source, hence the fact-check links. Thus, I can't really dismiss Scahill, due to the lack of criticism I've come across in my own (again, admittedly short) online search for him.

 

[Thylacine 2000]

Thank you, however I remember you also stated that evidence you gave to a different poster was from "one of the world's most respected newspapers", which seems to be correct. Well, I've also used a well-trusted source, hence the fact-check links. Thus, I can't really dismiss Scahill, due to the lack of criticism I've come across in my own (again, admittedly short) online search for him.

I was pointing out that "one of the world's most respected newspapers" actually doesn't deserve respect because of how badly they botched their story. And if the New York Times can screw up that badly, you can rest assured that so can The Intercept, a website founded a whole ten years ago.

 

[PrimalxConvoy]

I was pointing out that "one of the world's most respected newspapers" actually doesn't deserve respect because of how badly they botched their story. And if the New York Times can screw up that badly, you can rest assured that so can The Intercept, a website founded a whole ten years ago.

Sorry for not understanding your initial point. As for the intercept, although some scandals have occurred, there haven't been any regarding the matter at hand (at least not to my knowledge).

 

[Teufel]

Hezbollah rocket hits UN peacekeeper camp.

All Irish soldiers are "safe and well" after a rocket struck their UN peacekeeping base in Lebanon on Thursday morning, the Taoiseach (Irish PM) Simon Harris has said.

Hundreds of Irish peacekeepers are headquartered at a base known as Camp Shamrock in southern Lebanon, about 7 km (4 miles) from the border with Israel.

The Irish Defence Forces say all personnel have been accounted for and all are uninjured after the rocket, thought to match Hezbollah equipment.

The Chief of Staff for the Irish Defence Forces, Lt Gen Sean Clancy, confirmed that the rocket fell inside the camp.

He said it caused "minimal, minimal damage" on the ground of an "unoccupied area".

Speaking in Athlone, Lt Gen Clancy said the device which struck Camp Shamrock on Wednesday was a "Katyusha rocket".

"This was by an armed element, obviously. It was - our assessment - travelling from north to south into Israel," he said.

"A lot of these are undirected, unguided and therefore unpredictable rockets."

Huh, so they do know what these rockets are. Considering the peacekeeper force sat back while Hezbollah spent the last year firing thousands of rockets into Israel I didn't think they knew.

I cracked up at the BBC reporting. Thought to match Hezbollah equipment. It's a mystery. Who can say for sure?

 

[PrimalxConvoy]

 

[Pale Rider]

No wonder the MIGA set wants Trump to win.

 

[Thylacine 2000]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/05/middleeast/netanyahu-yoav-gallant-intl-latam/index.html

Netanyahu has fired Yoav Gallant as defense minister. He had already fired Gallant last year during the judicial overhaul affair, which prompted immense national protests and a general strike unprecedented in Israeli history and forced Netanyahu to back down. This time it appears to be for keeps. Gallant had repeatedly clashed with Netanyahu over military strategy, particularly on the latter's demand for "total victory" and maintaining permanent control over the Philadelphi Corridor, saying those goals would undermine potential hostage negotiations. Early word is that protests have started forming again, like they didn't have enough to worry about over there.

Gallant is replaced by former foreign minister Israel Katz, a longtime Netanyahu loyalist who opposes a two-state solution and got in some trouble over the summer for seeming to endorse relocating Palestinians from the West Bank, then denying he had said it.

I can't believe the level of ruinous, criminal stupidity they have running the place. All of their recent problems could have been avoided. Easily. Trivially.

 

[PrimalxConvoy]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/05/middleeast/netanyahu-yoav-gallant-intl-latam/index.html

Netanyahu has fired Yoav Gallant as defense minister. He had already fired Gallant last year during the judicial overhaul affair, which prompted immense national protests and a general strike unprecedented in Israeli history and forced Netanyahu to back down. This time it appears to be for keeps. Gallant had repeatedly clashed with Netanyahu over military strategy, particularly on the latter's demand for "total victory" and maintaining permanent control over the Philadelphi Corridor, saying those goals would undermine potential hostage negotiations. Early word is that protests have started forming again, like they didn't have enough to worry about over there.

Gallant is replaced by former foreign minister Israel Katz, a longtime Netanyahu loyalist who opposes a two-state solution and got in some trouble over the summer for seeming to endorse relocating Palestinians from the West Bank, then denying he had said it.

I can't believe the level of ruinous, criminal stupidity they have running the place. All of their recent problems could have been avoided. Easily. Trivially.

Protests erupt in Israel after Netanyahu fires defence minister

Benjamin Netanyahu says there is a "crisis of trust" between him and Yoav Gallant, and replaces him with Israel Katz.

www.bbc.com