The 2024 Us Presidential Election Thread

The Predaking

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So in person voting is tomorrow, tens of millions of ballots have already been cast, so let's talk about this here.
 

The Predaking

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Looking at this Newsweek article, its going to be close:


Three different projections, and only one has Harris winning, and even that is barely by 2 EC votes.


How has it come to this?
 

wonko the sane?

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The polling is based off of the previous elections, which were far closer to standard conditions than this one. The extremism of one candidate is breaking traditional voting norms. Polling always skewed towards republican, and they've been underperforming massively in the last few years.

I could even go so far as to say "the demographics on which they're basing the current trends no longer apply", but I really don't have to. Nor do I have to say "mainstream media is complicit in platforming the fascist, and has ALWAYS made it into a horse race.".

Did you vote? Cool, take a break. Maybe unplug till wednesday. You're done, hit the showers; Good hustle kid.

If you ain't voted, maybe make your plan to do it, make sure you give yourself plenty of time. Then go home, have yourself a cuppa, maybe a pint, and read a book till wednesday.

When we vote, we win: and my friends; there has been VOTING! Record breaking voting.
 

The Mighty Mollusk

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Pocket

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I for one plan on unplugging until someone barges into my room to tell me Harris won. And if she doesn't, I don't want to know. In fact, I won't want to know anything ever again.
 

Steevy Maximus

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I’m not far off. Got to run to store and get some groceries, probably catch up on some anime series, maybe power up the PS5 to play some golden (or golden-ish) PSX oldies I got on there…and probably not even touch Facebook or the forum or anything else until mid-Wednesday morning.
 

CoffeeHorse

Exhausted, but still standing.
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First results, Dixville Notch in New Hampshire is split. Harris gets 3. Trump gets 3. Yes, literally 3 people each. There are towns this small.

This is obviously a statistically insignificant number of people. But Clinton beat Trump 4-2 and Biden beat Trump 5-0.

I'm going to bed.
 

CoffeeHorse

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Voted first thing this morning. I only waited because my election day voting place is within walking distance, but my early voting location is in a very inconvenient spot for some reason.

Place was packed all around. Tons of voters, but also tons of workers who who know what they're doing. Process was as smooth as I've ever seen it.
 

The Predaking

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Going to leave early today to vote. I would have done so this morning, but I had early morning meetings plus I needed to bring food to the office for a lunch party.
 

Deathy G1

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I was waiting in line when the polls opened. Since I’m new to the area, I just voted my party line and abstained from all ballot questions except for the Maine state flag redesign and all unopposed races where the candidate was of the opposing party.

This was my first experience with ranked choice voting. I don’t really see the point unless you are voting for 3rd party candidates first, but that may just be me.
 

Dekafox

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That's the point - it gives 3rd parties a greater chance of gaining steam so we can have more choices than Republican and Dem in the future(or Dem and whatever party the Republicans turn into if you prefer) because otherwise everyone just gloms into two parties because of First Past the Post meaning you just need a majority.

Did my part, but line was like an hour long of waiting. No sticker either, but I don't think we had a cool sticker like Michigan did anyways.
 

G.B.Blackrock

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I was waiting in line when the polls opened. Since I’m new to the area, I just voted my party line and abstained from all ballot questions except for the Maine state flag redesign and all unopposed races where the candidate was of the opposing party.

This was my first experience with ranked choice voting. I don’t really see the point unless you are voting for 3rd party candidates first, but that may just be me.
Strictly my own opinion, but having heard so many people decry the two party system, but say that they would vote for some third party candidate if it weren't a two-party, winner-take-all system (as it is nearly everywhere in the US), I see the point pretty easily.

Imagine three candidates. One is horrible in every way you can imagine, but the other two are all-but identical. Further assume that the population is evenly split between "those who agree with the horrible candidate" and "everyone else." Without parties, the horrible candidate wins, because the other two split their population's votes, while the horrible candidate got ALL of their population's votes.

This is very much the kind of thing we're seeing with Trump, and many otherwise-liberal voters saying they can't support Harris (for whatever reason). If they were allowed to go ranked choice (and assuming they still preferred Harris as a second choice, with Trump a distant third), the third party candidate could generate meaningful support and influence without sabotaging the race and leaving us with Trump.
 


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