Project 2025 doesn't count?
The 2024 Us Presidential Election Thread
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The only consistent and coherent thing I can recall is tariffs, tariffs, and some more tariffs.
Either to bully other countries into making more favorable trade concessions, or to step up their NATO spending. That seems to be Canada's primary concern right now, trying to get an exemption to whatever ends up happening.
It really doesn't because he consistently disavowed it. I don't know whether they'll get their hands on him. I don't know whether he'll try to do some of the stuff. A lot of the stuff is very hard to do.
But it certainly isn't his campaign slogan when he consistently said he had nothing to do with it.
Yes, becuase Trump is the most honest and thruthful man alive.
Walz said it pretty well: you don't write a 900 page playbook without intending to use it.
Did you even read what I said?
I can disavow I'm a human being, doesn't mean its true.
I hate it, too, but I don't really doubt its truth. The only piece I question is how many more people failed to vote for Harris than were already going to fail to vote for Biden (especially over the war in Israel).
The people who wrote it definitely hoped to use it. Political think tanks write up policy recommendations all the time. Trump hasn't written 900 pages in his entire life.
Again, I am NOT saying he has no connection to it. I don't know. My involvement in this was a reply to someone saying Project 2025 was Trump's tagline and I don't know any definition of tagline where your tagline can be something you never said and denied whenever asked.
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If you want my opinion, I do think Project 2025 was written independently of Trump's campaign and his knowledge of it is brief and his understanding of it is scant. It is a wishlist. They hope to get as much of it as possible enacted. But stuff like this is written all the time. It doesn't usually get so much public attention. Whether they'll be able to get Trump to work on a lot of it is very questionable, because he is very lazy. Whether they'll be able to get Congress to participate where necessary is even more questionable because they are mainly much more savvy politicians than Trump.
I actually don't know much about it. I have seen some of the things that people talked about, but I haven't read it and I haven't read a summary. The parts that depend on the Senate will not pass. The things that Trump can do through the Cabinet are possible, but I really feel like people don't understand the animal that Trump is. For some reason they think he is part Dick Cheney, but he is 0 parts Dick Cheney. The only thing he WANTS is to be vindicated as a winner, to be praised, and to stop the legal cases against himself. Trump has no political agenda whatsoever. He has no wishlist. No policy ambitions. He has very little idea how government could be improved. He wants credit for good things that happen and he wants no blame for bad things that happen. He has nothing he wants to accomplish, full stop. When a policy is suggested to him the only calculus in his head is whether or not it will win him praise. I think he has heard enough about Project 2025 on TV to be wary about it. He is deeply fearful of being called a bad President. So he'll have to check his gut on how much praise it gets him from how many people and how much blame it gets him from how many people. He is perfectly willing to sit there for 4 years and accomplish nothing at all. He's only going to make an effort for something that will help him personally. So wily people who get him working on it are probably going to have to break it in pieces and never call it what it is so he won't say, "Wait isn't that the thing that people said would make me bad?"
But if you did, no one could really say "Shadewing is a human being" was your tagline.
Trumps name is in it 300 times. The organization that wrote it LITERALLY said they wrote it as the roadmap for his administration.
If the roadmap is "Just appoint people from this list to these positions and we'll take it from there" then some of it will get done. Otherwise, who knows.
But he tried to distance himself from it, so it's not the scorecard he can invoke in the midterms and say "I did the thing."
But he tried to distance himself from it, so it's not the scorecard he can invoke in the midterms and say "I did the thing."
I'm just saying. In his first term the spectacular failure to repeal Obamacare was an obvious momentum halting moment. That was the point when his political capital from winning the election clearly ran out.
I don't know what he ran on this time that's the potential equivalent of that.
I don't know what he ran on this time that's the potential equivalent of that.
The most important quote I think is this (paraphrased):
People like me who fail to see the point if you are voting for one of the two big parties. We have it here in Maine and it just seemed pointless to me, even after I researched how it worked while I was standing in the voting booth (I wanted to make sure I wasn't compelled to pick ranked choices, thereby voting wrong).
Oh, you had voting reform on the ballot in some states? I remember we had a national referendum on electoral reform back in 2011, and the “no” side ran adverts claiming that changing the voting system would lead to British soldiers dying due to lack of equipment, and that seemed to swing it in their favour. Urgh.