The Fallen's Dreamwave design is still the only one that matters.
Transformers: Age of the Primes toyline discussion 10/27 Update: First look at Megatronus the Fallen
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I find that Superion is the CW team I'm least interested in replacing (leaving aside the Stunticons, who I just don't care about owning at all, because I don't care about the Stunticons). Silverbolt made an actually solid torso, and it felt like that team made the fewest compromises to actually exist at a retail price (aside from Alpha Bravo, but they still got the last guy out anyway). So it would have to be truly spectacular to get my attention. Mildly more curious about the Combaticons, because they're my favorite G1 combiner team, but again, it'd take a really great first impression for me to go all in on it again.
Other than that....maybe the Fallen, depending on just how Dreamwavey it is. Not just in the design, but also in the balloonish proportions. Reign that in to make him look powerful and threatening instead of bloated, and I might go for it. Maybe base it more on the Titanium than on a parade float. I'll want to see the Amazon two-packs first, and I can't be bothered to care about Walmart exclusives when none of the Walmarts near me will ever carry them anyway.
Other than that....maybe the Fallen, depending on just how Dreamwavey it is. Not just in the design, but also in the balloonish proportions. Reign that in to make him look powerful and threatening instead of bloated, and I might go for it. Maybe base it more on the Titanium than on a parade float. I'll want to see the Amazon two-packs first, and I can't be bothered to care about Walmart exclusives when none of the Walmarts near me will ever carry them anyway.
I can't imagine they'll base it on anything other than the comic art. I would be happy to see something based on the Titanium, but this team is too dedicated to accuracy for that.
Sounds like a fun line... happy for another chance at Crasher that's for sure
Honestly, the only CW team that I found really failed was Menasor/the Stunticons, primarily because the CW Motormaster mould wasn't very good. And hey! Props to Hasbro, they did do another one that wins almost by default. But now that it's done... I really don't feel the need to replace any Combiner teams. So I'm happy to sit that side of things out unless something really wows me.
As much as I deride the live action series, he's literally namedropped in the title of the second one and is the central villain. It's a shit movie, but it's also the verison of the fallen that people are most familar with.
I still want Pants-On-Fire Dreamwave Fallen, mind you, so I'm not saying that to be a buzzkill.
I'm actually pretty excited to get the 13, TBH. I know some people aren't keen on the concept, or think they should be things left backstory rather than be a focus, but to me, this is like owning an action figure of Anubis or Thor (Not that one) or Zeus (Also not that one), but for Transformers, and I think that's kind of rad.
I absolutely adore Combiner Wars and all the combiners that came from the line itself and its engineering. Combiners are by far my favorite TF gimmick, and they really took it to a new level where they were far more functional than they ever were before, at least for the G1 designs. They all have a permanent place in my collection.
Having said all that, I dug out most of that collection recently while setting up my new display cases. And this was right around the same time that I was able to retrieve all my Legacy Stunticons from their various storage locations while recovering from our basement flood. Getting to kind of newly experience all of them alongside each other, I'm now much more open to updates on all of them.
I still prefer the CW approach overall. Even with Menasor, I don't like the frame approach to a combiner. It feels like the worst type of cheat. But in the end, the stability and playability of Legacy Menasor is just SOOOOOOO much greater than any of the non-Titan CW combiners that I would have to go all in on any new ones.
I still have Monstructor and a full Liokaiser as my top wants, followed by an in-scale Predaking. But after them, I'm hoping all the rest will follow too.
Having said all that, I dug out most of that collection recently while setting up my new display cases. And this was right around the same time that I was able to retrieve all my Legacy Stunticons from their various storage locations while recovering from our basement flood. Getting to kind of newly experience all of them alongside each other, I'm now much more open to updates on all of them.
I still prefer the CW approach overall. Even with Menasor, I don't like the frame approach to a combiner. It feels like the worst type of cheat. But in the end, the stability and playability of Legacy Menasor is just SOOOOOOO much greater than any of the non-Titan CW combiners that I would have to go all in on any new ones.
I still have Monstructor and a full Liokaiser as my top wants, followed by an in-scale Predaking. But after them, I'm hoping all the rest will follow too.
I’d guarantee Flatline will be a Red Alert retool. I’m also confident that Carnivac will be a Silverbolt retool. Barring the ballsy move of redecoing Siege Spinister, the inclusion of Vortex into the line makes more sense if both are derived from the same base tooling.
I also think that, for a LOT of this, we need to add the disclaimer that things can and will change. Just since JtPrime posted the listings originally we’ve seen noticeable amount of changes in United’s assortments and roadmaps. The past year has seen Hasbro put a greater emphasis on package refresh/reruns than in prior years, and some of what is posted might get shuffled around. Crasher is on deck, but I’d not be surprised if Needlenose (to go with Quake and the impending Spinister) was rerun, along with Beachcomber (HTF G1 character) and probably Vector Prime to go with the rest of the 13.
Yeah, it is almost certain G1 Silverbolt will be the next Commander figure. But the inclusion of Vortex (replacing Swindle) is also interesting:
I recall a couple years ago, there were rumblings from the “he tell me” crowd that Hasbro was looking to increasing Commanders from one to two per year. That could create a scenario where Onslaught would be a practical “spring 2026” release, with Nexus Prime being fall 2026 with a host of limb bots to use (between the existing Stunticons and their redecos, along with the Aerialbots and Combaticons (plus any exclusive/fan channel alternates using those toolings).
Unless Nexus ends up being a Titan class combiner release or something…
I’m calling it now: The Fallen will be a retooled Armada Megalvatron.
If I get that set it'll be for Ironfist. Carnivac will just be a bonus
I'm in an odd place with regard to this line, but that might just be for the moment. It's just between finances and space both becoming prohibitive this is as good a distancing point as I'll find. The prices for these things leapt up in recent years, as did the prices for everything else, and my purchasing power is an embarrassing fraction of what it was.
It doesn't help that there's basically a whole other toyline's worth of stuff packaged in exclusive capsules that are inherently pricier here than the main line, every time.
(The "easy" solution is to sell off older stuff to make room and generate cash, but the secondary market tends to be a toilet full of butts.)
Legacy has already been a much slower line for me. I've had to be much pickier as the trilogy wore on, and many good items from its contemporary Studio Series and ROTB lines I've also had to let pass, hoping to snag them later on as good deals if the price is ever right.
Right now the prospect of 13 Primes, AND entire new combiners (still interested in Menasor but haven't started on them, and now the others are coming), AND a second set of five Leader class Dinobots, on top of the individual releases I have my eye on (another aforementioned exclusive capsule has Excellion)... I don't know how I'm going to keep up with all of that. I want to, but this is not a good time to be thinking about that at all.
It doesn't help that there's basically a whole other toyline's worth of stuff packaged in exclusive capsules that are inherently pricier here than the main line, every time.
(The "easy" solution is to sell off older stuff to make room and generate cash, but the secondary market tends to be a toilet full of butts.)
Legacy has already been a much slower line for me. I've had to be much pickier as the trilogy wore on, and many good items from its contemporary Studio Series and ROTB lines I've also had to let pass, hoping to snag them later on as good deals if the price is ever right.
Right now the prospect of 13 Primes, AND entire new combiners (still interested in Menasor but haven't started on them, and now the others are coming), AND a second set of five Leader class Dinobots, on top of the individual releases I have my eye on (another aforementioned exclusive capsule has Excellion)... I don't know how I'm going to keep up with all of that. I want to, but this is not a good time to be thinking about that at all.
Silverbolt was pretty good and all, but I think it's time to retire him. Plus, Hun-Gurrr proved he doesn't pull off the quadrupedal retool all that well.
I think my idea is more interesting…
But taking a step back…the big question Is what the “gimmick” will be for the toy line. Budget cuts seem back in season, so I’m not sure if the Primes will be Armorizor/Weaponizers as Hasbro’s developed since Siege.
What I CAN see is that each Prime coming with a “Legendary artifact” that would be a glorified accessory. Solus Prime has her Forge Hammer, Prima has the Star saber, Alchemist might have attachable “elements”, etc.
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Assuming the Grimlock is finally the royal blue, retail G2 Grimlock, this will be the first time we've seen that deco at retail since the 90's, won't it? I'm amazed it's never used.
Yeah, pretty much as the Aerialbots aren't exactly "Prime"
How they do Superion will determine if I really want him or not. Menasor was the only one they could really cheat with and it be accurate. The only reason I have any of the Legacy Stunticons is due to their G2 versions.
Also, is it wierd for me to want them to do Alpha Bravo from the new Vortex?
Also, is it wierd for me to want them to do Alpha Bravo from the new Vortex?
Probably not seeing as they range from Deluxes to Voyagers to Leaders. The Weaponizers and those like them have all been just Deluxes with the occasional Core class figure functioning as a weapon.
No. Not at all!
There is a Voyager Junkion (Trashmaster), but that's the only one that comes to mind. And idk if they were ever specifically pushed as upgrade bits rather than "they're Junkions, they come apart and stuff".