Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

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Every veteran should be boiling with anger.
Every AMERICAN should be boiling with anger over this, not just the veterans. Of course Trump has been on record stating that soldiers captured or killed are losers so it's no surprise his administration would do this kind of garbage.
 

Pocket

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Is there some specific reason this particular veteran's memorial has been vandalized in this manner, or has the department done this for everyone who's not a white man?
 

Axaday

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It may be that someone at the top is driving it and it may be that this is how someone further down the chain interprets a general order to root out DEI stuff in their department. When you tell people to do something dumb, people tend to do something dumb.
 

Pocket

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It could also be malicious compliance. Most of the people working there aren't new hires, after all. I know if I were working there and Trump just became my boss, I'd immediately make it my mission to interpret any vague orders in the way that makes the boss looks as bad as possible, without actually doing anything I suspect he'd disapprove of enough to fire me.
 

wonko the sane?

You may test that assumption at your convinience.
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Is there some specific reason this particular veteran's memorial has been vandalized in this manner, or has the department done this for everyone who's not a white man?
They've done it to everyone not a white man. They took down pictures of the enola gay because it had "gay" in it.
 

Axaday

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Maybe I am being semantic pedantic, but this isn't really sarcasm in a way that I understand it. It is just an empty promise repeated over and over. I wish a follow-up had been, "So did you not mean for people to believe it?"
 

Fullstrength Motleypuss

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It could also be malicious compliance. Most of the people working there aren't new hires, after all. I know if I were working there and Trump just became my boss, I'd immediately make it my mission to interpret any vague orders in the way that makes the boss looks as bad as possible, without actually doing anything I suspect he'd disapprove of enough to fire me.
If this is in any way true, I wholeheartedly support this kind of shenanigans.
 

Corvus

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wonko the sane?

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The US retains the ability to remotely kill the software on the f-35s. The US also cannot be trusted, and has threated to invade multiple allied, sovereign nations. Did trump honestly think the world would keep buying military hardware from them?
 

Anonymous X

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I don’t really follow this sort of thing, but isn’t the F-35 a massively overpriced white elephant anyway?

(Thinking back, Thrust in TF Armada was an F-35. That was over twenty years ago. Shows how long these pieces of military hardware take to get in service, given they’re only being rolled out now.)
 

KidTDragon

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Living through history is ****ing exhausting.
 

Dekafox

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Reminds me of this post I was reading yesterday, which introduced a (supposedly) relatively new term called Competitive Authoritarianism, though tbf he makes it clear also that he did not create the term - it goes back to some stuff written before Trump's inauguration and used Hungary's situation as its initial model.

 

Xaaron

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There is no future for Republicans. Trump is the only thing holding them together as anything resembling a coalition. Eight years of looking for someone able to match his energy has failed. Trump's inevitable death will be a murder-suicide pact for the GOP.

There is no future for Democrats. They lack the ability to inspire the people. Their options are to cling to a framework that has already failed, or try to be more Trump-like and authoritarian against their "enemies", which they lack the competence, drive, and/or chutzpah to make work.

The bright future for America is a cross-party coalition that rejects R and D tribalism and forges something new that a majority can agree on. But both sides are so divided, so petulant, and so untrusting of one another, that its unrealistic to expect such a positive change in the near future without an even stronger catalyst.

The dark future for America is complete anarchy once people openly accept that no system exists that really controls them in any way.

The median is maybe we dissolve into 50 independent countries if people pretend they're still willing to accept State law after the federal government falls apart, but the cognitive dissonance to believe that is already structurally unsound.

What is government when people refuse to be governed?
 


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