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(Discovery S4 thing) Yeah, I think that's the best way to sum it up, and part of why TNG is sometimes cringe inducing for me in ways TOS isn't. There are aspects of Roddenberry's outlook that were ahead of the time in TOS that were decidedly not so forward-thinking twenty years later.

Uh-huh, compare her episodes and development to Worf after he took her place and we'll talk. Meanwhile the other ladies in the main cast are the doctor and the psychiatrist. Marina Sirtis would have had to wear that ridiculous bodysuit through the whole series if she hadn't taken advantage of...

And notably M-5, the other time Starfleet tried doing it with one of their own ships, which the Texas Class directly references in a visual easter egg.

Dude that's how every Star Trek actor makes a living, they were typecast for life. Denise Crosby quit the show because she didn't have anything to do but stand hot and look boobs and you used her as an example of Gene Roddenberry not being sexist. What the actual ******* hug

Any ... anybody wanna tell him, I don't think I can

Yeah, I get that, I do. It's funny because I remember people complaining when Deep Space Nine launched that the crew was going to be "stuck" on a station instead of exploring (a concern I assume quieted down in S3 when they have a ship and go explore some things.) But having a sense of place...

No, he's very much only your god, and buddy, you need to go to church, the man was a sexist, self-aggrandizing twit whose worldbuilding acumen did not extend to the most basic principles of character writing but he also created and accomplished some amazing and deeply culturally important things...

I think the user-serviceable technology is a very good way to visually represent the ethos you're describing, which is nearly identical to FOSS or the maker movement, which I think further is both very based and very Star Trek. I do not agree, just as a matter of sci-spec, that it would...

I don't even know what the purpose of this argument is anymore. You both understand why it was written that way now, we understand what the two of you are saying, the thing we disagree about isn't about the show anymore. Naw, if TOS hadn't made enough impact for the movies and TNG to exist...

That wasn't my point though. "Real" food is not uniform like that, but you would save an awful lot of storage space that way. Emergency rations have to keep and be edible at room temperature, and they're usually designed for eating without utensils as well aren't they? There are constraints on...

I have to assume you mean chronologically, because Archer and most of the captains from the whole Discovery era are not "since" Kirk. But you're still hopelessly wrong as usual. Sisko isn't necessarily the most compassionate captain in all of Trek, I think Pike probably beats him out as the...

Completely true, but this might not be a typical case of inconsistency on the part of the writers. "Measure of a Man" and "The Offspring" pretty much exist to remind us that Starfleet specifically and possibly the Federation at large have disturbingly little respect for synthetic life, a rare...

Oh, totally. It's literally a process we've seen happen in some hobby spaces with 3D printing. I'm just saying specifically that I don't think the traditional manufacturing or scanning things into a computer you mentioned previously would play any role in the development of patterns for most...

God that would be a bizarre world. Like so many products IRL go through a stage in development that's in a computer, whether they're just drafted there, or the product is subjected to some kind of simulations, or there's even an iterative design process using rapid prototyping, or CAD files get...

So that's how they keep it secret. This coverup goes all the way to the top. If you squeeze your brain at the right angle it might even explain the black badges.

I've heard it said that there's no wrong way to be a Star Trek fan. It's convenient of you to collect so many of them in one place.

Well, I guess I just accept the premise that I think a lot of Trek seems to indicate, that you can transport real eggs and they'll still taste just as good, you just can't replicate them, because the difference isn't in the reconstitution, it's in the pattern, because a pattern taken from a real...

Wow I wonder how you could have ever come to the conclusion that the social environment you were raised in was the most natural one, you must be correct.

I want to be clear that I don't doubt there are pet breeders or mean to imply that you were picturing wild caught cats, I was just trying to account for all the possible sources of these animals. "Plenty of animals out there" is a good ethical argument for adopting shelter animals instead of...

I don't understand how a person can be obsessed enough with Star Trek to think a walkie-talkie is a cool toy for kids because it says "Star Trek" on it, but not understand the concept of restorative justice. You don't have to agree with it, but you should at least have a handle on the concept...