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Yeah, with infinite tries, you could find a universe where major things were different and yet all the same people hooked up and had the same kids, but that's definitely not what the Romulans were filtering those timeline simulations for.

You know, among all the nonsense of Picard S2, it wasn't as obvious, but this adjustment to the timeline was already happening there, since Adam Soong was apparently about to resurrect "Project Khan" (simply the worst reveal ever in an episode of Star Trek) in something like 2024. Presumably the...

I certainly like Dake's explanation better. But I do think it's notable that this episode and the Picard season were at least somewhat concerned with the progress and sociology of present-day Earth and how it gets to become the Earth we know in the future. Neither is the transcendentally good...

TNG 5x21, "The Perfect Mate": Picard allows a woman to be traded as a political gift after she learns a fatalistic sense of duty from him. TNG 7x13, "Homeward": Picard decides to let a society die to protect it from interference that would make it survive per the Prime Directive until he's...

Yeah, but it's by the same token that I can't get over that Romulans shot our JFK. And I think I would have been happier with a gentle retcon that didn't call a bunch of attention to itself, without needing to justify itself in time travel lore. The usual suspects on YouTube would have claimed...

Plus we had a season finale the entire point of which was to emphasize that Pike has accepted that his future won't be changed. Going back on that later through some other means wouldn't be a timeline problem, it'd be thematically discordant and a step backward for the character.

Yeah that works. Damn though, I am not soon going to get over the reveal that a Romulan shot Kennedy. What the goddamn.

Yeah, I think those are two sides of the same coin, that's Roddenberry's spirituality as expressed in TOS and TNG and inherited by the rest (and lampooned in LD with the smiling koala.) Organic intelligence can reach a point of enlightenment where it transcends the body and becomes incorporeal...

Are we losing any meaningful history though in a story or thematic sense? Why is there a eugenics war and then a World War III? World War II had eugenics too, was the Eugenics War just not global enough to count as a mainline sequel? Something my partner and I noticed looking at the timeline...

Not anymore they're not. This is the last season of Discovery, and the fact that Prodigy was among the handful of shows Paramount+ just summarily axed says to me that where the left hand is still throwing jive at the wall (Matalas hoping for his own show, whatever happened to the Academy show...

In the Kelvin Timeline, the Beastie Boys' "Sabotage" exists. The Kelvin timeline deviates from the Prime timeline somewhere in the twenty-third century. Thus, society still exists in the Prime timeline in 1994, when the Beastie Boys released Ill Communication, two years after the supposed...

I don't think any of that is real, but if some part of it accidentally is, actors are allowed to be wrong about things! In fact, don't tell anyone I let you know this, but their opinions actually don't matter at all.

Gotcha. Well, I guess that tracks.

I did appreciate the ending for that reason. Knowing that this jive is going to be going on for the next 150 years, it needed to be bittersweet. That shouldn't have been confined to a couple of lines of dialogue, but an effort was made. Edit: Er, 120 years.

Those aren't comparable things at all. No one ever said Tuvok was dead in the first place, he'd just been replaced by a changeling. You could argue whether Vadic's people keeping their prisoners alive was a realistic choice or one that was made just so the show didn't have to kill off all these...

Some damn good stuff in that episode. Honestly this time watching I'm finding Odo doesn't speak to me nearly as much as he did the last time I saw it, and Kira - there are characters I find more appealing for whatever reasons like Bashir and Garak, but for depth, nuance, and pathos, I feel like...

Checks out. I do think Dake is right though, the way things worked out seems good for pacing. This last episode - not much of it rang true for me, it had the "and everyone clapped" energy of Unification III, and it wrapped up Una's secret augmentations plot just after the previous episode...

Oh, what was the behind the scenes reason?

And she had the fake background memories and all that anyway, so he wouldn't have been a feature even if he wasn't dead at the time. But she's definitely part of Data's legacy and has heard a lot about him since. I don't think it has to be a Disney Descendants thing exactly. I'd also accept...

Looks like it was speculation based on him talking about involving Kestra and his having wanted to do a Data / Soji scene in S3. There's not a lot to her as a character but I wouldn't mind having an android crew member and being Data's daughter would suit the setup. Depending on how the show...