A Long Time Ago In a Galaxy Far, Far Away.... - Star Wars General Discussion

Donocropolis

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I haven't watched the animated Clone Wars era stuff, so my exposure to Saw is only through Andor and Rogue 1, but I agree with Axaday there. I like that the Rebellion is messy and growing from the combination of many different groups that are opposed to the Empire for a wide variety of reasons. By the time of the original trilogy, they're pretty much a proper military organization, but it makes sense that it didn't start out that way.
 

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By the time of the original trilogy, [the Alliance is] pretty much a proper military organization, but it makes sense that it didn't start out that way.
The Essential Guide to Warfare touched on this as well, stating that any Confederate remnants that lasted past 23 GR/12 BBY (the final mop-up in the Legends timeline, though most of the major holdouts were accounted for in the Empire's first two years) were treated very much at arm's length by Mothma and Organa (who had been Republic loyalists), to say nothing of fellow Senator Bel Iblis (Corellia had largely sat out the war, to the detriment of CEC afterwards -- though Corellian yards did, as we saw in Solo, build Star Destroyers under KDY license: and those that came out of said yards were just a little bit faster in real- and hyperspace (explaining the other odd line said by a certain charter pilot in A New Hope.)).

They (Mothma, Organa, and Bel Iblis) didn't want to give an easy win to Imperial propagandists who, as it turned out, accused Rebel leadership of wanting to drag the galaxy back to the chaos of the Clone Wars anyway.

The Guide also mentions a CIS naval commander who, while not allowed to join the Alliance Navy, was given a letter of marque to harass Imperial shipping on their behalf....
 
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I haven't watched the animated Clone Wars era stuff, so my exposure to Saw is only through Andor and Rogue 1, but I agree with Axaday there. I like that the Rebellion is messy and growing from the combination of many different groups that are opposed to the Empire for a wide variety of reasons. By the time of the original trilogy, they're pretty much a proper military organization, but it makes sense that it didn't start out that way.

The CGI Clone Wars series, while starts off rather rough, finds its footing after a while as it goes into the darker themes of war and fleshes out the characters, the revival of Maul, may seem a bit silly at first, given what happened to him in Phantom Menece, but it was the right call, as the series makes him more of a threat because its set in between movies they cannot use Sidious or Dooku as the primary villian of the show! As for Saw, in Clone Wars, his role is pretty small as he only appears in one story arc, where the Jedi are training fighters to resist the invaders and people who don't have the best intersts of their planet in mind at leasr from their view, its another character death that pretty much drives him forwards and he pretty much spends his life, resisting the major powers in the Galaxy, yet not really having a defined goal or purpose, in a sense you could say that he is a lot like Darth Vader before he becomes part machine minus the force and Jedi training of course, someone who pretty much angry all of the time! The rebels, we see in the films are just the main faction of the rebellion, but there is a lot of other smaller groups that chose to opperate seperately from the larger group, as the galaxy is pretty large and likely some of those rebel groups, do not agree with the main faction idea of restoring what was lost during the Clone Wars and Sidious's schemes!
 

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Nah. Reviving Maul is still an absolute embarrassment.

Star Wars used to have a rule. Cool villains are not entitled to a cool death. They go out like chumps, and it sucks, and that's what they get. Fan writers have always been determined to undermine this rule, but the six films followed it to the point of becoming a characteristic Star Wars thing. It's not something you see everywhere else.
 

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Yeah, as much as the cartoon-era Maul was eventually fleshed out into a decent villain, there's no reason they couldn't have poured almost all of that into a new character.

Maul in TPM was 'silent Force-ninja guy with horns and a double-bladed lightsaber', and his entire reason for existence was a plot point (Obi-Wan being forced to take another life). It's not like there were volumes of backstory that were lost when he got hacked in half and fell down that shaft that the writers wanted to resurrect.
 

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Yeah, as much as the cartoon-era Maul was eventually fleshed out into a decent villain, there's no reason they couldn't have poured almost all of that into a new character.

Maul in TPM was 'silent Force-ninja guy with horns and a double-bladed lightsaber', and his entire reason for existence was a plot point (Obi-Wan being forced to take another life). It's not like there were volumes of backstory that were lost when he got hacked in half and fell down that shaft that the writers wanted to resurrect.

No, but just like Boba Fett "He looked Cool" is all that matters.
 


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