A trip down memory lane TF websites from the past

Dvandom

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Well, the Earth was co-created from the initial pile of swirling matter.

And yeah, I remember Anton Max. One of the problems with early primitives-based CG like his work and Trent Troop's was that if you wanted articulated fingers you ended up with spindy weirdness.

---Dave
 

LBD "Nytetrayn"

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My gosh... Is that the one that used to load the sound file every time the front page reloaded? I remember it sounded like "This is a Cybertron" and three different Transformers characters would voice the "Cybertron" part in a row?

Orrrr maybe I'm thinking of another site with a similar name. 😗
I... don't recall that. ^^;
 

Sabrblade

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Here's Fox Kids's old RID2001 website. Lotta Flash content that's either long gone or in need of an emulator to play, some character profiles taken from show's production bible, and a description of the show in the "About" section.
 

Tuxedo Prime

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Have you tried Ruffle? It's a Flash-life-support-machine being used to keep the Homestar Runner site in working order. I've used a downloaded program to play a couple of old games I still enjoy.
 

Tuxedo Prime

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As I mentioned last spring on this very board, the World's Worst Site is (and has been for almost a year now) in a "pending deletion" queue. I tried to send a missive to PerceptorTFWW (the one with the TFWW), never received a reply. Perhaps he (or both him and Picard42) views it as an Old Shame. Which is sad, because yes, some of the jokes don't really work as they might have once (I rather liked Dick Gautier's response to one running gag), but damn the Beast Machines Episode Generator was funny (because it was true), and the early fics... well, I couldn't help but be reminded of them after the Rise of the Beasts trailer. You know the line I'm talking about.

Not all is lost though, I gave the fiction universe its own stream. Because of course I did.
 

Sabrblade

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Anyway, had to dig a little bit, but one I remember going to once upon a time was Planet Sabretron... and it's still around!
Bumping this to say thanks for finding this. I've been wanting to track down this old site for some time, now.

Unfortunately, many of its links just lead to dead Geocities pages, and need to instead be viewed via Internet Archive's WayBack Machine.
 

Stepwise

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I just read through this entire thread again.

Iggy Drouge, Ben's page, Dave's page, pre-transformers, Phule's, the page w/ the big summaries of Japanese cartoons, the TF webring, ATT . . . It's fun to sit here and reminisce on a slow Friday.
 

Sabrblade

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Since this thread is about the early internet fandom, I'm putting out a call for assistance in this thread to anyone here who was around back then and active in the 90s Transformers convention scene. Specifically those who were based on the UK.

From 1999 to 2004, there was a Transformers convention held in the UK called Transforce, which was run by Paul Cannon. Each Transforce had an exclusive magazine featuring content created by Simon Furman. Most notably, the short comic "The Last Days of Optimus Prime" and the two-part novella "Alignment". While both of those are easily available to find online, what isn't online is the rest of each magazine's content. There were even interviews with Furman in which he gave behind-the-scenes info regarding his Transformers works from back then.

If anyone here ever acquired any of those old Transforce magazines and still has any of them, please let me know as their content is very much worth archiving in digital scan form.
 
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Sabrblade

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After doing some digging, I have found the old Transforce 2000 exclusives webpage that lists the content of that conventions' magazine:
  • Brand new interviews with Simon Furman, Lew Stringer, Jeff Anderson, Mike Kazybrid, Lee Sullivan and Mike Collins​
  • Brand new Generation 1 story 'The last days of Optimus Prime' by Simon Furman, Jeff Anderson and Lee Sullivan.​
  • A brand new Combat Colin story by Lew Stringer.​
  • A brand new Humph the cat story by Mike Kazybrid.​
  • A 'Robot war' (story so far) feature by TMUK members.​
  • A Mike Kazybrid Matt and the Cat/Megatron pin up​
  • Focus on Japanese Beast Wars computer games by Paul Wright.​
  • 'If life is worth living' Beast Wars neo comic strip by Matt Dallas.​
  • A preview of Simon Furman and Andrew Wildman's new project 'The Engine: Industrial strength'.​
  • 'Conflicts of interest' a text story by Martin McVay.​
  • All wrapped up in a superb new computer generated cover by Zenith, featuring a new version of the illustration from Marvels UKs first issue of Transformers.​

And I found the webpage for the Transforce 2001 magazine:
Contents

Fell on Black Days
Script - Mark Stevenson
Art - Nick Roche
Letters - Graham Thomson

The Primal Sacrifice
Script - Graham Thomson
Art - Jack Lawrence
Letters - Graham Thomson

Fusion (text)
Story/Illustration - Martin McVay

Liars, A to D (a prelude to Eugenesis)
Script - James Roberts
Art - Matt Dallas
Letters Graham Thomson

Distraction
Script - Graham Thomson
Plotspark - Garry Bodsworth
Art - James Bull
Letters - Graham Thomson

Less Miserable
Script/Art - Matt Dallas
Letters - Graham Thomson

Relentless
Script/Artwork/Letters - Garry Bodsworth

Unfortunately, the sites for Transforce 2002 and 2004 aren't archived, so I can't tell if either of them had a magazine or not. Searching through ATT, I can't find any mention of their having had any magazines, so for now, the only ones I can be certain of their existence were the 2000 and 2001 magazines.

And it looks like "Alignment" was printed separately from the magazines, but again, "Alignment" is easy to find in digital form. It's the magazines that need to be found.
 

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Transmasters UK can be a elusive beast. Always was. Outside of tracking down a physical copy from someone, I don't think you'll have much luck, unfortunately, but I'll add a little to your quest.

This archive of Alt.Toy.Transformers has a little bit of discussion about the interview from Simon Furman from Transforce 2000, mentioning how he saw Beast Wars as part of the comic universe, and didn't consider Beast Machines canon.
Simon Furman regards Beast Wars as taking place in his comic universe
(according to an interview in the Transforce 2000 magazine, he ignores Beast
Machines entirely). His own post-BW storyline is Reaching the Omega Point
(the BotCon stories).

I don't think that he was dead, either. 'cause he said he wishes he could be
> with old friends. I got the impression that they were dead, and he wishes he
> could be with them.
>
> Although, if you think that he's alive, the ending doesn't really make sense.
>

Simon commented on this issue at the convention I'm told. There is indeed
a differance between entering J'nwan and becoming one with the Matrix.
J'nwan is a Valhalla like plane of existance entered into while still
alive by a dimensional gate. (This would be the 'Silicon Valhalla' Dinobot
refered to in Beast Wars.) However, one joins the Matrix by simply dying.
He was very specific that they were seperate things. Whether or not they
can return from J'nwan to the mortal plane, however, is up to Simon
himself. (Or of course fanfic writers. ;-)


As far as I'm concerned this whole thing is HIS sandbox. Hasbro just comes
along once a year & breaks all the toys, and he creates new masterpieces
based on the carnage they leave behind. ;-)

Simon suggested to me that he worked with Jeff Anderson to redesign Optimus
Prime for the story. As this story is set a LONG time after Primes last
appearance, it made sense that he had evolved further. Neither Megatron or
Prime have downsized to Maximal/Predacon size though, they are both original
size.



And another interview with one of the guys who ran Transforce and mentions the Transforce 2000 cover. It's apparently a redone version of Marvel's Transformers UK #1, and similar art was used in some old region 1 DVDs, but I can't find ANY images of the actual Transforce 2000 cover in question.

There's other mentions of Transforce in Transformers At the Moon's archives. You can try your luck there.


EDIT: And I found the cover!
So, at least you should know what you're looking for.


There WAS a exclusive comic and book at Transforce 1999. But, it looks to be all about TMUK proper. Although it does have a interview with...Bench Press? Who? (More on that later)

Transforce 2002's exclusive seems to be Simon Furman's Alignment. Transforce 2001 only had the first part of Alignment, but this was both parts combined. (Transforce 2001 is ALSO where Eugenesis first released)


And Transforce 2004 DEFINITELY had a collection of sorts. The Last Odyssey. Which was a fanfic collection written by a bunch of TMUK mainstays. (Also...a exclusive video game collection of Transformers themed versions of classic arcade games?)
It's not really of much interest to people who aren't familiar with TMUK, but it was probably the last hurrah for the "golden age" of TMUK. And...from the looks of the website, things went wrong, unfortunately for them.



Also, just as a aside...I had completely forgotten about Bench Press Comics attempt at releasing Transformers and GI Joe comics back in 1999.

Some of those images even still work, sorta. This might have gotten a story in Wizard back in the day. A memory unlocked.
 
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Sabrblade

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So, recently, I've been doing some major translation work on the Japanese guidebook Beast Wars Universe, and working on its Beast Wars Fandom section led me to search WayBack for this, Ben Yee's original Beast Wars Homepage from way back before BWTF.com became the all-encompassing Transformers website that it is known as today. The book even features a black-and-white screencap of this very webpage.

What's more, the book specifically led me to search for this old site to look even deeper for one of Ben's old articles titled "In Defense of Beast Wars", written during the infamous era of "Trukk not Munky" debates. I wanted to find this article because the book went as far as to include its own Japanese summary of said article, and I felt said summary should be fact-checked for accuracy (it likely is accurate, but I wanna see how accurate and which parts of the article it specifically covers).

This is the page from the book that contains this old fansite content (as well as some BotCon 1998 coverage):

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EDIT: And here's my translation of this summary, to compare it to Ben's original article:
■"IN DEFENCE OF
BEAST WARS: TRANSFORMERS"


When the BW toys were first released, many fans who were familiar with previous vehicle-transforming toys said, "There's no way a toy like this would sell,'' but BW toys have a variety of excellent features, such as the following. First of all, they have an average of nine points of articulation, which is unthinkable for normal American action figures like Spawn, Star Wars, and Batman. Some fans complain about the "quick spring transformation" of the regular size, but this is easy for young children to play with, and the image of quick transformation in battle is exciting for them, and for children who are accustomed to transformation, it is balanced with "multi-step transformation'' in the Deluxe size and above. As for the TV show, the rationale for why Transformers now have biological elements is convincing. There are many works that ignore these aspects, but if these points are ignored, the viewer will not be able to immerse themselves more deeply into the world of the work. Also, many fans feel uncomfortable with the coupling of living organisms and robots, but the fusion of living organisms and robots is a theme that has been frequently pursued in TF, and there have been many Transformers with partial living elements, such as the Headmasters and Pretenders (the overseas version setting). But one question is: "Isn't 300 years after the old series a mere blink of an eye compared to the millions of years of the Transformers' lifespan, and too short a time for drastic changes to take place?" In the 20 years between the first and second seasons of the old series and the movie version, the planet Cybertron was completely taken over by the Decepticons, while the Decepticons were also completely removed from the Earth. The Autobots had built two moonbases on Cybertron and a giant transforming fortress on Earth, and were also joined by new members like Hot Rod. In the one year period between the movie version and the third season, the leaders of both armies changed, and a battle against Unicron, a gigantic TF the size of a planet, took place. Thus, even in the world of TF, various changes can occur in a short period of time, and it is quite possible that changes such as the emergence of the Maximals and Predacons and the loss of Earth's memory can occur over the course of 300 years. As for the opinion of "The world of the toys seems to be a direct continuation of the old series, but isn't it ridiculous that the Transformers would suddenly take on the form of animals when they had previously been in cars and airplanes?" it is quite conceivable that if the Transformers' battles were to take place in nature, as depicted in Kenner's Comic 2-Pack, they would adopt animal forms more suitable for action in nature, just as they had done in their vehicle forms before. However, the reason why their battle was moved to be set in nature is not revealed, but this could be said to leave room for fans to freely imagine and enjoy.
 
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Since this thread is about the early internet fandom, I'm putting out a call for assistance in this thread to anyone here who was around back then and active in the 90s Transformers convention scene. Specifically those who were based on the UK.

From 1999 to 2004, there was a Transformers convention held in the UK called Transforce, which was run by Paul Cannon. Each Transforce had an exclusive magazine featuring content created by Simon Furman. Most notably, the short comic "The Last Days of Optimus Prime" and the two-part novella "Alignment". While both of those are easily available to find online, what isn't online is the rest of each magazine's content. There were even interviews with Furman in which he gave behind-the-scenes info regarding his Transformers works from back then.

If anyone here ever acquired any of those old Transforce magazines and still has any of them, please let me know as their content is very much worth archiving in digital scan form.
Argh, only just saw this post.

I did go to all but one of the Transforce events, and probably have some of the material from the conventions somewhere, so I'll search when I next have suitable spare time, although I can't promise anything, and I'd have to check several places. But I'll attempt it, definitely.

(Note that the UK fandom generally doesn't really talk about Transforce these days.)
 


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