Anti-Semitism

[Thylacine 2000]

Greenblatt must resign, he has totally destroyed his credibility. The ADL fought hard against Ford's antisemitism; it was specifically an ADL lawsuit that got his insane newspaper, The Dearborn Independent, shut down. Greenblatt himself had discussed Ford's antisemitism only about 18 months ago.

 

[wonko the sane?]

More to the point: ford literally invented the modern concept of the factory, and the concept of standardization. Not to mention his progressive pay methods. Musk is also LITERALLY the opposite of those: ruining the streamlining of a factory because of "cool", using proprietary parts and software to make it harder to service on the end of the consumer and threatening and abusing his employees with slave wages.

 

[Ungnome]

About the only thing Musk properly founded that's still around was SpaceX. The entire IDEA of Tesla was fully formed before he was even brought on board as an investor(he later orchestrated a takeover and forced the actual founders out of the company and if the original founders had their way, Tesla probably would have a sub $30,000 car out already, it was Musk who insisted on using overpriced materials and adding superfluous features).

 

[Pocket]

I agree about the takeover thing, but the cheapest EV on the US market right now is the Chevy Bolt EV, which starts at over $40,000. I rather doubt a startup would have been able to undercut that price by now under any circumstances, especially if they're stuck making do without Musk's investment.

 

[Ungnome]

Entry level Chevy Bolt is now around $25000. They did a massive price drop with the 2023 model.

 

[Pale Rider]

Trump Tells Jews To 'Get Their Act Together' And Appreciate Him More

His repeated demand for more credit for his policies toward Israel was quickly called out as antisemitic.

www.huffpost.com

 

[wonko the sane?]

Yeah, cause ORDERING people to like you always works.

 

[Pocket]

I had to click that link just to make sure it wasn't an old story from, like, 2018 or something because I'm positive this isn't the first time he's said this exact thing.

 

[Rust]

No, this is an old line from him. He's got this whole idea that every Jewish person in America is beholden to Israel.

 

[Thylacine 2000]

Polling on Jewish Americans has not changed significantly in decades. There's always supermajority support for the Democratic Party, Zionism (at some level), and secular egalitarian progressive politics. Israel is usually around priority #8 or lower.

Trump is not the first Republican to snottily demand Jewish loyalty because he's "good for Israel," but he is the most dangerous.

 

[Pale Rider]

FB friend:

"I can't be anti-semitic because I support Israel" is not the logical slam-dunk that Republicans think it is.

 

[Anonymous X]

Jewish groups criticise Nigel Farage for calling Grant Shapps ‘globalist’

Former Ukip leader and others use term associated with ‘age-old antisemitic conspiracism’ to describe new home secretary

www.theguardian.com

The most influential and dangerous far-right politician in the history of postwar Britain uses antisemitic tropes, because of course.

 

[MrBlud]

A shame the only thing the far left and far right seem to have in common is anti-semitism :/

 

[Paladin]

and we've officially reached the "Nazi rehabilitation" phase.

Parents stunned by Zionsville school board candidate's comment on Nazis

Dr. Matt Keefer commented on a Facebook post that, "All Nazis weren't 'bad' as you specify. They did horrible things. They were in a group frenzy."

www.wthr.com

 

[wonko the sane?]

Let's be clear here: there was a not insignificant portion of the german population who went along with the nazi regime simply due to the fear of reprisal should they take a stand. This is, however, not an excuse. If they were against it, but still participated: they are just as guilty as the ones who gleefully participated. There are no good nazi's, there are no good fascists.

 

[MrBlud]

You can make a case that all 40’s Germans weren’t bad people but if you sign up for the Nazi Party for *any* reason (be it fear of reprisal, career advancement, or even plain old racism) then you have to also accept being called an evil piece of jive for it.

 

[Dekafox]

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

"It's no longer anti-Semitic to be anti-Semitic."

 

[Ungnome]

Makes about as much sense as anything else the far right has been spouting in the last couple of decades.

 

[Pale Rider]

Translation: we support Israel as long as it continues to serve our interests, but now we're going to openly admit that we hate the Jews. Always have, always will.

Not much of a change, to be honest.