Conspiracy lunatic thread - people who believe in absurd nonsense are dangerous

[Nevermore]

Here's the thing: trump isn't being a qanon threat. He's trying to act like a mob boss, and the qanon folks are taking advantage of the fact that by default trump quietly threatens people and organizations because of how he does business.

As for qanon itself: yeah, they are a threat, even if not an actual physical threat. I mean: some of them ARE a physical threat (like the nutter in the clown wig hunting democrats, or all that pizzagate bullshit.), but the sheer reach of their disinformation and the insidious nature they spread it, that's the actual qanon threat.

plus, you know, the assault rifles.

Pizzagate predates QAnon. If anything, QAnon is the evolved version of Pizzagate.

 

[NovaSaber]

These Are The Three Richard Spencer Fans Arrested For Attempted Homicide In Gainesville

They are all active white supremacists; two of them are violent felons.

www.huffpost.com

About five hours before his companion allegedly fired a bullet toward several protesters, and a day before police charged him with attempted homicide, Colton Fears, in an interview with HuffPost, laid out the grievances that had brought him to town. “Basically, I’m just fed up with the fact that I’m cis-gendered, I’m a white male, and I lean right, towards the Republican side,” said Fears, 28, wearing a pin of the 3rd SS Panzer Division Totenkopf of the Waffen-SS. “And I get demonized if I don’t accept certain things.”

 

[wonko the sane?]

The things you don't accept are the reality that people who don't look, act, or think like you do are STILL entitled to human rights and dignity.

You literal ******* nazi.

 

[Pocket]

As for qanon itself: yeah, they are a threat, even if not an actual physical threat. I mean: some of them ARE a physical threat (like the nutter in the clown wig hunting democrats, or all that pizzagate bullshit.), but the sheer reach of their disinformation and the insidious nature they spread it, that's the actual qanon threat.

Their disinformation is chaotic, self-contradicting nonsense that only fellow Qanoners even attempt to take seriously. Trump's disinformation campaign—that he is first and foremost a great leader and that secondly he had the 2020 election stolen from him—is simple, consistent, and to the point, and has already been successfully spread to everyone who's been paying any attention to him or the news surrounding him.

 

[NovaSaber]

Well, he's honest sometimes:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1090347043959255040

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

Alex Jones declares that he's Hitler and a child murderer in unhinged interview

Alex Jones, the host of the conspiracy theory show InfoWars declared that he himself is Hitler and that he shot kids to death in an interview on Channel 5 with Andrew Callaghan. When Callaghan asked Jones if he felt responsible for what happened to the Sandy Hook parents, meaning the harassment...

www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com

Because in the wake of everything else he's being charged for, the best thing to do is double down and dig that hole deeper, right?

 

[Pale Rider]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1576315800079712257

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

Meanwhile, how many reports have there been of Republican candidates outright calling for open season on Democrats/gays/transgender/whoever else they don't like this week?

 

[Anonymous X]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1580288198357712896

Well, well.

 

[wonko the sane?]

Wow, was not expecting nearly a billion in damages.

Shall we all hold our breath while he gets out the chequebook? Betcha it only takes ANOTHER decade, and a few more court battles till he pays, and even then I bet he tries to pull a trump.

 

[Rust]

There's no victory here until those checks clear. If anything, this just gives Jones more ammunition for his alternate universe fiction where he's somehow the only victim in a situation that began with a school full of dead children.

Personally, I say string him up by his neck and give all the families a bat. Beat him until candy comes out.

 

[wonko the sane?]

That plays equally in the victim complex, and frankly goes out past just this case and plays into the greater republican narrative from the psychopaths like traitor green. He's already admitted he won't stop spouting his lies: so just let the penalties rack up: because exploiting someone for their stupidity is just about the most american thing a person can do.

At least it's been weaponized for the greater good, for once.

 

[Pocket]

The real revelation here is that he actually has that much money, or at least that a judge believes he does or can get it. Like, really? This one guy with... it wasn't even a radio show, was it? Like on actual, legal, FCC-approved stations? It was some internet-only thing, surely. He somehow made as much money from a decade of shilling snake oil on his fringe conspiracy talk show as Gabe Newell made from selling AAA video games for as many years. I don't know if I believe that. What was Rush Limbaugh's net worth when he died?

 

[Rust]

What was Rush Limbaugh's net worth when he died?

$600 Million.
His annual take home for screaming hate into the ether was $70 million.

 

[Pocket]

Well there you go. Even accounting for inflation, I find it hard to believe Jones has made more money off his internet show in just one decade than Limbaugh did from a decades-long career on the radio plus however many books he sold.

But then, they wouldn't be demanding it from him if he didn't have it, surely... debtors' prisons are long gone, after all, as much as it would rule to see him trapped in one.

 

[Pale Rider]

Doesn't Jones make a shitload off his supplements?

 

[Ungnome]

He's a grifter who uses fear to make money. There's no telling what other scams he's got running to make himself cash on top of the infowars money. That being said the courts DO sometimes issue settlements higher than the defendants net worth. Any money he makes post-verdict could be garnished, outside of some they let him keep so that he can at least eat.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

It only matters if they actually make sure he pays up. Start seizing assets if he refuses.

 

[wonko the sane?]

Alex jones probably doesn't have a billion dollars. But that's the point: it has to be shocking to prevent others from doing this again, and it has to be steep enough that court overseen repayment basically means he's taken off the air for it. He's never going to be able to cover this, but it also makes him declare bankruptcy (like, actual bankruptcy, not the "hid my ******* cash" bullshit.) and working in a mcdonalds till he dies.

 

[Pale Rider]

FB friend:

What's the use of a criminal charge called "contempt of court" if it's not used to throw Alex Jones in jail?

I can't think of anyone who has ever demonstrated more contempt for the court system than Alex Jones. He ignored court orders over and over and over for years, he used his radio show to accuse the judge of being corrupt, and he live-streamed yesterday's court judgement against him while accusing the court of misconduct and bragging that he would never pay it.