FEMA?

[Axaday]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/24/politics/north-carolina-trump-disaster-relief/index.html

Trump is so weird on FEMA. Did he intentionally leverage North Carolina stuff to help win the election? And now he is telling North Carolina that maybe we should get rid of FEMA? And the problems in states are complicated so states should just handle them themselves? Is that something red states want?

Here's the weirdest question. Does Trump intend to keep living in Florida? Who is the biggest loser if there is no FEMA? Answer: Texas, Louisiana, and FLORIDA.

 

[Pale Rider]

Don't the flyover states also have tornadoes and floods that FEMA deals with as well?

 

[Rhinox]

Don't the flyover states also have tornadoes and floods that FEMA deals with as well?

We do, but the devastation is typically on a much lower scale than your massive hurricanes and flooding the coasts deal with.
Tornados don't often hit major cities. When they do it can be devastating, but there's a lot of random misses and things that still work. Unlike a major hurricane which just flattens everything as it goes through.

 

[Covert Agent Rodimal]

I'm ambivalent about Fema. Seems like they do help, yes, but only so much and only when they get around to it.

 

[Axaday]

I'm ambivalent about Fema. Seems like they do help, yes, but only so much and only when they get around to it.

That complaint could have been about any Federal agency and of COURSE FEMA could be better. But it still sounds like the M that is bothering you and not the F.

Telling 3 climate change denying states that they're gonna have to raise their own taxes to pay for the hurricane destructions sounds like a mean drunk Democrat would say. Coming from a Republican it is just really weird, especially if one of them is your home state.

 

[CoffeeHorse]

FEMA is terrible. It's an inefficient, bureaucratic mess.

But its functions absolutely need to be done by something. If this turns into another "Repeal and replace, but we'll only figure out the replace part later someday maybe" then hell no. FEMA at its worst is still better than not having FEMA.

 

[Pale Rider]

It wouldn't surprise me there's also some tinfoil hattery involved.

 

[CoffeeHorse]

This is part of the context for why he's suddenly talking about ending FEMA. I have family near Asheville, and these stories sound like what I've been told. FEMA's there doing what they can do, but they have insane restrictions on what they can and can't do, and what they can do is just not enough. The whole thing does need to be heavily restructured. But that would be complicated, so he's proposing just axing it.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is another Post Office situation where stupid rules were placed on it deliberately to make it fail so it could be blamed for failing and then scrapped. It wouldn't surprise me at all. But however we got here, it failed these people and feelings are very raw about it right now.

 

[Rhinox]

It's very selfish of me to say this, but I'm going to be honest.
Let him. Let him get rid of it. Kick it to the states, sell it as a state issue. Yeah a lot of people who don't deserve it are going to suffer. That's a given in this administration. But far more of his voters, his followers are going to suffer. They need to understand what they voted for. We are all going to have to live through this hell. I think we need it to be especially painful for them. Maybe then the lessons will start to sink in.
Probably not, but there's always another leopard waiting for their space at the all you can eat face buffet. We'll see what week 2 brings.

 

[CoffeeHorse]

If we lose FEMA, Florida will go feral after the first hurricane.

 

[Axaday]

It's very selfish of me to say this, but I'm going to be honest.
Let him. Let him get rid of it. Kick it to the states, sell it as a state issue. Yeah a lot of people who don't deserve it are going to suffer. That's a given in this administration. But far more of his voters, his followers are going to suffer. They need to understand what they voted for. We are all going to have to live through this hell. I think we need it to be especially painful for them. Maybe then the lessons will start to sink in.
Probably not, but there's always another leopard waiting for their space at the all you can eat face buffet. We'll see what week 2 brings.

Trump would not have a major disaster in the next 4 years, a Democrat would win the next election and there'd be a freak hurricane in February and they'd be like, "It was never like this when Trump was President"

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

If we lose FEMA, Florida will go feral after the first hurricane.

Tell the swampbillies that all the good stuff is at Mar-a-Lardo. Direct their fury where it belongs.

 

[Rhinox]

Trump would not have a major disaster in the next 4 years, a Democrat would win the next election and there'd be a freak hurricane in February and they'd be like, "It was never like this when Trump was President"

Have you seen the weather lately? No only are we going to have major disasters in the very near future, but I think we're in for a long streak of nothing but insane, record breaking destruction. And until enough people are impacted or enough idiots are dead to get rid of those in the pocket of industry, we will continue to do so.

 

[Ungnome]

Heck, Florida had record snowfall the day after he was sworn in.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

There's a joke there about Hell freezing over.....

 

[wonko the sane?]

There's a joke there about Hell freezing over.....

During the year of the snake.

 

[Axaday]

During the year of the snake.

Not for 3 more days.

 

[Axaday]

I didn't look too closely, because it is even in the article I posted, but I was talking to my Dad and he pointed out that Trump is proposing the Federal government still PAY, just not do the work.

 

[Sjogre]

Pay who, exactly?

Because as much as FEMA sucks, paying a hodgepodge of people to do the work that FEMA does now is just FEMA, but worse. If each state has to set up an emergency management agency, that's fifty smaller FEMAs with all the inefficiencies that implies. Pay that money to a non-government for-profit private company? Private companies care about getting profits, not providing services.

Is Trump bothering to imply even the barest concept of a plan, here? Or is it just more "Repeal Obamacare" crap?

 

[abates]

He's talking about sending money direct to states because that way it's easier for him to withhold aid money from states he doesn't like, I'm sure.