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CoffeeHorse

CoffeeHorse

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On one hand, we get this story every session. There's always a growing rift between DeSantis and the legislature, and then they end up giving him everything he asks for.

On the other hand, things feel different this time, for reasons the national media is missing. Yes, he wants the legislature to do him another favor instead of working on local priorities, but that's nothing new. What's different this time is it's happening at the same time as we are still dealing with the aftermath of the Great Flood of 2023. We still can't find gas. This is actually still an ongoing situation, and he doesn't appear interested.

The legislature is annoyed because he seems to be done with the state but won't let them be done working for him.
 
Ironbite4

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“Disney finds itself in this regrettable position because it expressed a viewpoint the Governor and his allies did not like. Disney wishes that things could have been resolved a different way,” the lawsuit says. “But Disney also knows that it is fortunate to have the resources to take a stand against the State’s retaliation – a stand smaller businesses and individuals might not be able to take when the State comes after them for expressing their own views. In America, the government cannot punish you for speaking your mind.”
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This pretty much sums up this lawsuit and why Disney's going to win. Even if it goes all the way to SCOTUS, DeSantis and Florida will lose.

Ironbite-bout damn time.
 
CoffeeHorse

CoffeeHorse

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It would be nice if they could somehow both lose. Everything about this situation sucks.

If Disney wins, I hope the ruling is narrowly focused. The government can't wage a full blown harassment campaign to punish a particular company, for its speech or really for any other reason. Whatever can be said for the merits of the original deal, the legislature didn't blow it up on the merits. It's just a harassment campaign to satisfy one man's personal vendetta. Stick to that and Disney should win, and I'd hope they do.

I'm just fearful of a broad ruling that accidentally makes Disney's power more permanent. If we ever have a normal government it shouldn't be precluded from revisiting the issue of the crazy amount of power Disney has down here.
 
Paladin

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CoffeeHorse

CoffeeHorse

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It's going to suck when Disney ends up buying the rest of the state.

But it's also going to be funny.
 
The Mighty Mollusk

The Mighty Mollusk

Scream all you like, 'cause we're all mad here
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Not so much smarter as more focused. They're both authoritarian narcissists, DeSantis is just still capable of following a sentence from one end to the other. As long as he doesn't have to go too far off script, anyway.
 
CoffeeHorse

CoffeeHorse

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Desantis' advantage is that he's the head of an effective dictatorship at this point. He's had an unbeatable yet compliant majority in the legislature, and he went on a systematic march through every agency he could find to fill them with his friends. In theory we have processes and checks and balances, but in practice he says "Make it so" and it becomes so. Sometimes the legislature whines but they still do it.

On a daily basis his governing style is no different from Trump's. He casually throws out a wild idea during a press conference, and if the base likes it he tells the legislature to make it so. Overall his administration is just as guilty of lurching from wild thing to the next, and a lot of those ideas are way more divisive here than his reelection blowout would suggest. But the speed and efficiency of that lurching looks impressive.
 
Ungnome

Ungnome

Grand Empress of the Empire of One Square Foot.
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Effective except for the House of Mouse fiasco, at least. Having a personal vendetta with one of the largest employers in the state, not to mention one of the largest media companies in the world has consequences(granted, as much as I LIKE seeing deSantis having issues, I really wish it wasn't because of Disney alone)
 
CoffeeHorse

CoffeeHorse

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This is the same legislature that wants to leave OSHA. Our future is not bright.
 
Pale Rider

Pale Rider

...and Hell followed with him.
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Will Florida become a radioactive wasteland before climate change turns it into Atlantis?
 
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