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Ghostbusters General
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I know GB2 gets a lot of mixed reactions but ever since they had the 2009 video game i think more fans have opened up to the 2nd film and maybe VIGO will return. I saw afterlife that was fun and frozen empire i havent seen yet. I think days go by and GB 2 doesn't get enough love that 1 does.
Depending on what day you ask me, I will no joke say Ghostbusters 2 is the superior film.
The biggest knock I've seen against it is that it repeats a lot of the same beats as the first film, which okay it does, but it does them better.
1. Vigo is a bigger presence in the movie - Gozer was more of a force of nature that the Busters have a single conversation with, Vigo is constantly working through his minion Janosz.
2. They bust more ghosts - In GB1, we only ever see them bust one ghost: Slimer, while in GB2 they bust a few, mostly during the montage.
3. The scares are better (the subway scene haunted poor Scottsman when he was little)
4. Venkman is more of a lovable asshole than a sleazebag.
5. And they got rid of the smoking.
6. Most importantly, it's all original. New plot, new music, new jokes. None of it is recycled, and it's ALL good. The actors and scriptwriters haven't lost a step!
Truthfully, I tend to view GB1&2 as basically two halves of a whole. GB1 has the benefit of being the first, and nothing Ghostbusters related will have an impact like that again, but GB2 takes what GB1 did and does an extremely good job with it. It's shocking to me that the movie was recieved poorly enough that it turned Bill Murray off from doing sequels (until Garfield 2) and basically killed any chance of a true Ghostbusters 3. The videogame is the closest we'll ever get, unless they want to do an animated flick and substitute Maurice LaMarche in for Harold Ramis. (Probably the only person on earth I'd be okay with them doing that with)
The biggest knock I've seen against it is that it repeats a lot of the same beats as the first film, which okay it does, but it does them better.
1. Vigo is a bigger presence in the movie - Gozer was more of a force of nature that the Busters have a single conversation with, Vigo is constantly working through his minion Janosz.
2. They bust more ghosts - In GB1, we only ever see them bust one ghost: Slimer, while in GB2 they bust a few, mostly during the montage.
3. The scares are better (the subway scene haunted poor Scottsman when he was little)
4. Venkman is more of a lovable asshole than a sleazebag.
5. And they got rid of the smoking.
6. Most importantly, it's all original. New plot, new music, new jokes. None of it is recycled, and it's ALL good. The actors and scriptwriters haven't lost a step!
Truthfully, I tend to view GB1&2 as basically two halves of a whole. GB1 has the benefit of being the first, and nothing Ghostbusters related will have an impact like that again, but GB2 takes what GB1 did and does an extremely good job with it. It's shocking to me that the movie was recieved poorly enough that it turned Bill Murray off from doing sequels (until Garfield 2) and basically killed any chance of a true Ghostbusters 3. The videogame is the closest we'll ever get, unless they want to do an animated flick and substitute Maurice LaMarche in for Harold Ramis. (Probably the only person on earth I'd be okay with them doing that with)
Vigo was a damned creepy villain, and creepy dude in general. He still gives me the creeps today, and that idea of the underground river of slime in an abandoned subway system that could just come out and grab you in the bathtub absolutely terrified me as a kid. 
Was it the "perfect" or near-perfect film, in a structural and filmmaking sense, that GB1 was? Not really, but just like BttF2 and 3, it was a very fun ride in its own right and I still enjoy it just as much as GB1 to this day.
Was it the "perfect" or near-perfect film, in a structural and filmmaking sense, that GB1 was? Not really, but just like BttF2 and 3, it was a very fun ride in its own right and I still enjoy it just as much as GB1 to this day.
My problem is that I think GB2 does the romance between Venkman and Dana worse than GB1, and that's really saying something. And then it gives that romance more screentime.
Also, the scenes with the GBs are more plot-driven, without the plot being very interesting, rather than comedic with the guys bouncing off each other and their work. Compare GB1's finale, where it's mostly about the guys snarking and reacting to Gozer, to the finale with Vigo, where it's a full action thing with some quips.
Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike the film. I liked it more than GB1 as a kid. But nowadays, revisiting it, I definitely see how it disappoints in comparison.
Anyway, I stopped by to see if anyone else is outraged about the HasLab Ecto-1 forcing us to choose between the Ecto-1 and Ecto-1A because of the stickers that can't be reapplied. It kills the whole point of having the thing convert.
Also, the scenes with the GBs are more plot-driven, without the plot being very interesting, rather than comedic with the guys bouncing off each other and their work. Compare GB1's finale, where it's mostly about the guys snarking and reacting to Gozer, to the finale with Vigo, where it's a full action thing with some quips.
Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike the film. I liked it more than GB1 as a kid. But nowadays, revisiting it, I definitely see how it disappoints in comparison.
Anyway, I stopped by to see if anyone else is outraged about the HasLab Ecto-1 forcing us to choose between the Ecto-1 and Ecto-1A because of the stickers that can't be reapplied. It kills the whole point of having the thing convert.
That's why you buy two
Yeah it sounds crazy with the price but that is probably what Hasbro is trying to pull here.
I bought two of their last GB crowdfunder, the Trap/PKE combo, but I think I'll be abstaining on this one. I'm happy with my Hot Wheels 1:18 Ecto-1A.
Hopefully the next Haslab goes back to some kind of prop replica... we still need the Ecto Goggles.
Dancing Slime Toaster next please!
Honestly I'm not sure what they could offer that would make Haslab numbers after this. The Pack, Trap, and PKE are the main pieces of equipment people care about. A GB2 Slime Blower I think is more Haslab worthy, but much too big to not break the bank. Goggles alone doesn't feel like there is a need for a full HasLab for. Really the best I think we can hope for is another Pack cycle with inspiration from either the original movies without the Afterlife weathering or the new packs from Frozen Empire. And honestly most of the work is done for the original packs.
I was bummed we didn't get the arm mounted neutrona wands as a toy, but it's in the movie so little that I'm not surprised.
They can be reapplied, though. At least five times, upwards of 10, and you get multiples:
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But you know what was even more fun to watch?
Hasbro gave up on the Early Bird special. Everyone gets Tully if it funds!
For anyone who purchased the Two in the Box Haslab and you're eager to see what you'll be getting, Adam Savage uploaded an early unboxing a few hours ago on what was probably the first actual production set out the door:
I think Mondo launching their Real Ghostbusters Peter this week took the wind out of their sales a bit.
The Real Ghostbusters - Peter and Samhain Collector's Pack - Timed Edition
They’re back to save the world ... in 1/12 scale! Complete with swappable hands and portraits, Mondo’s Dr. Peter Venkman 1/12 scale figure is equipped with his trusty proton pack, particle thrower and ghost trap. And each of our Real Ghostbusters comes paired with a goblin from the show ... in...
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Given how many people I see complaining about the price of that set, I'm not sure I agree.
Especially since the numbers for the Haslab were actually improving before this news hit.
Especially since the numbers for the Haslab were actually improving before this news hit.
Finally, 6" scale Real Ghostbusters have been the dream. I'd want those way more than the movie versions, glad to see them finaTWO HUNDRED DOLLARYDOOS?!I think Mondo launching their Real Ghostbusters Peter this week took the wind out of their sales a bit.
The Real Ghostbusters - Peter and Samhain Collector's Pack - Timed Edition
They’re back to save the world ... in 1/12 scale! Complete with swappable hands and portraits, Mondo’s Dr. Peter Venkman 1/12 scale figure is equipped with his trusty proton pack, particle thrower and ghost trap. And each of our Real Ghostbusters comes paired with a goblin from the show ... in...
Yeah I know the price is insane. But there are people willing to pay Mondo prices for essentially figures many have always wanted to see happen. The normal version without Samhain is half the price but that's still just Peter with his Gear and Slimer. It's weird but I've seen both sides. Some are passing on the Ecto to get Peter and the rest of the Upcoming Mondo line. A lot regard the cartoon as their base for the fandom over the movies given some of us grew up watching it more than the films and this will be the first time to get good versions of many of the Ghosts. I'm scarily going in on both because I'm dumb with my money. But I know I'd kick myself if I passed on either. And there is no way I pass on the next Egon and Boogieman set. Three of the four I'm willing to go in for the Ghost as Winston comes with Sandman. Ray comes with Gash, and I could care less about him so it's just Ray and his pack ins. Janine is also teased but I'm not sure if I'd be down for normal Janine or any of her ghosts she would have ties to.
Whats about if you want the ghosts more then the busters? I'd pay $60 a peice or so for Sam Hein, Boogeyman, and Sandman.
Ghash I get and don't get at the same time, he's kinda a memorable one, so much to also show up in the intro to Extreme, but he's also kinda a small fry compared to the others. I think Grundle would have been better since with Extreme that meant he was at least reoccurring villain like Boogeyman or Sam Hain.
Ghash I get and don't get at the same time, he's kinda a memorable one, so much to also show up in the intro to Extreme, but he's also kinda a small fry compared to the others. I think Grundle would have been better since with Extreme that meant he was at least reoccurring villain like Boogeyman or Sam Hain.
Sadly the larger ghosts are Mondos timed website exclusives. Each buster normally comes with a small ghost at least and Peter has an open trap sucking in Samhain regardless if you get the larger pack or not. Egon will have the Blue fuzzy ghost in the intro from the shot at the end of it with all the ghosts in the street. The one at the bottom of the group.
And I agree that Gash (Ghash?) isn't one of my more wanted or memorable ghosts and the Grundle would have been better, but then again the Grundle isn't that big to try and justify the crazy price boost for the ghost.
And I agree that Gash (Ghash?) isn't one of my more wanted or memorable ghosts and the Grundle would have been better, but then again the Grundle isn't that big to try and justify the crazy price boost for the ghost.