We're gonna learn who really voted for Biden and who just voted against Trump.
Harris-Walz / Dems
- Thread starter Teufel
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Everyone. Everyone who voted for biden only did it because there was literally no other choice. No one ******* wanted him, he is simply what we got.
I'm sure some people did actually vote for him for all of his campaign promises. Except he hasn't really delivered on much, if any, of it. And he keeps making more promises, but most of us don't have a lot of hope for those, either. And the Jan 6 committee still hasn't done much about the actual people responsible for it. So....this is gonna suck, to say the least.
But hey, at least biden can go down in the worlds history books as the last democratically elected, care taker president of the united states.
So whatchu guys think the GQP will rename the US to anyway? Betcha it has the words republic and god right in it.
So whatchu guys think the GQP will rename the US to anyway? Betcha it has the words republic and god right in it.
The problem isn't the guy on top of the jive heap: the problem is the jive in the heap.
I began budgeting for the lack of the CTC next year, but not gonna lie, it would be nice to know it was still going to be coming. January is traditionally a lower revenue month for my business, so that extra $500 would come in handy.
The CTC also helps offset my self employment tax. Gonna have to set money aside next year throughout the year now.
It’s crazy that a state of 200,000 people has this much power over the rest of the country.
The CTC also helps offset my self employment tax. Gonna have to set money aside next year throughout the year now.
It’s crazy that a state of 200,000 people has this much power over the rest of the country.
Yes and the voters on my state who continue to send guys like Gym Jordan and Rob Portman to DC are just as guilty.
Thing is, those are Republicans. You know to expect division and anti-consumer tactics from them.
Manchin caucuses with the Democrats. That’s my issue.
I just got an email from Schumer admitting that Build Back Better is delayed at least until January.
They should do it anyways, just to force them to put their money where their mouth is. It's much easier to campaign against someone for not doing something if they don't even have any attempts on the record. If they tried and got shot down, they at least have the "we tried" to fall back on and plenty of finger-pointing.
I feel like the thing that needs to be said here is: BBB, in its current form, was hot garbage.
Partly, it's the fault of Manchin and other moderate Dems, who peeled away funding and forced the size of the package to shrink, meaning there was no feasible way to do everything on the agenda and do it well. So at that point, Dems could've picked a few important things and fully funded them. It would be something. But instead they tried to jam everything in as temporary programs that, like the CTC, would expire after a while. The fact that everyone is now preparing for the CTC's expiration next year is all the evidence we need to see why that's a good idea.
So the best thing Manchin's done in this whole process was to look at that funding scheme and say "not gonna support that, it's bullshit." That was the Dems' chance to go back and do what they should've done, which is pick a few priorities and call it a win.
And now, in the midst of all the drama since Sunday, we find out that Manchin did give the White House a proposal along those lines:
Manchin apparently doesn't support funding/extending the CTC because he thinks poor people are gonna spend it on booze or whatever, so he's a classist asshole, but the important part is that there was a viable path to getting something done and signed into law! And it includes something to address climate change, which is probably the most pressing issue of all.
But of course it's all spiraling into drama and disorder because the Democrats are the Detroit Lions of political parties.
Partly, it's the fault of Manchin and other moderate Dems, who peeled away funding and forced the size of the package to shrink, meaning there was no feasible way to do everything on the agenda and do it well. So at that point, Dems could've picked a few important things and fully funded them. It would be something. But instead they tried to jam everything in as temporary programs that, like the CTC, would expire after a while. The fact that everyone is now preparing for the CTC's expiration next year is all the evidence we need to see why that's a good idea.
So the best thing Manchin's done in this whole process was to look at that funding scheme and say "not gonna support that, it's bullshit." That was the Dems' chance to go back and do what they should've done, which is pick a few priorities and call it a win.
And now, in the midst of all the drama since Sunday, we find out that Manchin did give the White House a proposal along those lines:
Manchin apparently doesn't support funding/extending the CTC because he thinks poor people are gonna spend it on booze or whatever, so he's a classist asshole, but the important part is that there was a viable path to getting something done and signed into law! And it includes something to address climate change, which is probably the most pressing issue of all.
But of course it's all spiraling into drama and disorder because the Democrats are the Detroit Lions of political parties.
You do realize that manchin only made the counter offer to continue to masquerade as a democrat. If the white house had come up with his offer and proposed it to him: he would have refused it. Partly because he wants to slow down the transition to renewable energy, given how invested he is in west virginia coal.
At this point, bring it to a vote. Force them to vote no and then remove them from the party. Let's stop pretending, stop playing grabass nice games and actually put people on the ******* record.
Biden knows that Manchin just sunk his presidency. At this point neither he nor Senema should get a damn thing from the DNC except a laundry list of primary opponents.
Biden knows that Manchin just sunk his presidency. At this point neither he nor Senema should get a damn thing from the DNC except a laundry list of primary opponents.