HasLab Deathsaurus

PlasmaWolf

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I got mine last Sunday. The only reason I knew to expect it was an email from Fed-X telling me that a signature was required. I didn't get an email from Hasbro Pulse until AFTER it was delivered.
 

Sciflyer

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^Yeah, I have to admit that it was weird getting both the "Your item has shipped!" and the "Your item has arrived!" notifications on the same day.
 

Darth_Prime

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Good news UK Fans!


Attention HasLab Deathsaurus backers in the UK. While we had previously reported that the Transformers Generations HasLab Deathsaurus had been delayed In The UK until February 2024, now Hasbro has just started to sent e-mails to all UK backers to confirm their addresses in order to start the shipping process of the highly anticipated Transformers Victory Emperor of destruction.

Transformers Generations HasLab Deathsaurus Backers!
Is your shelf ready?
The time is ALMOST here!! Our teams are prepping to start shipping the Transformers Generations HasLab Deathsaurus to all of you. Before we do that, we want to make sure we have the correct shipping address listed on your order and give you a chance to make any necessary changes before it heads your way.
You have until the end of the day on Monday 15th January, 2024 to update your shipping address through Hasbro Pulse. Incorrect shipping information could impact the receipt of your item. Don’t let it happen to you!
Thanks for being a fan!
-Hasbro Pulse
Update: E-mails have also been sent to other European countries as well.

It seems we fellow UK fans may have Deathsaurus in their hands before February. Transformers Victory main villain is coming in hot to the UK! LET’S SAY GO!
 

Sabrblade

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So I've had the first two volumes of the translated TF Manga for awhile but I only finally got the final volume that covers the Victory Manga for my birthday a couple days ago.

I think I might have vaguely heard of Solon before, but I probably would have blanked if asked and had no real concept of what his whole deal was. Now having read the Manga I can't help but think that Hasbro missed a HUGE trick by not including King Solon with this kickstarter.

I mean King Solon is a pretty cool existing Transformer design from the 80s that's never had a toy and combines with Deathsaurus (just like Victory Leo does Star Saber) to form the more powerful armored Kingsaurus. This should be talked about more. He should have fans and a toy!

Is he super obscure and only appear in one issue of Manga? Yeah. But like when would be better to do a guy like that than a collector aimed Kickstarter? It could have balanced him out with the Star Saber two pack a little more (would have been a LOT cooler than the throne IMO).

King Solon at least would have made an Awesome last stretch goal.

Ah well. I wish I believed that maybe Hasbro would slip it in the regular line or a 3rd party would take a shot at it.


-ZacWilliam, on a side note I think I really love the tone of the Victory Mangas weirdly light and friendly relationships between the Bots and Cons. It's almost more like they're rival Sports teams that are friendly off the field than anything else. Strange but fun to see a big bot/con fight and then Jan be like "See you at school, Solon! Don't forget the group project."
Bumping this thread to respond to this post with some news that has been recently brought to light.

It's been revealed that the reason Solon and his King Solon mech weren't considered for an additional tier for HasLab Deathsaurus... is because Hasbro and TakaraTomy don't actually own the rights to them!

According to Evan Brooks, any character or concept that was created fully uniquely for the manga is not owned by Hasbro or TakaraTomy, so HasTak can't actually use them without going through am extra hurdle (as in, spending more money to work out a deal with the actual rights holders). The original inquiry that brought this to light had asked about Deathsaurus's wife Esmeral rather than Solon, but the same still applies nonetheless.

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Sabrblade

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Oof.

Takara really dropped the “work-for-hire” ball.
Sadly, this kind of thing has happened in Transformers more often than most people realize. Just look at Circuit Breaker, Death's Head, or even Primus's sister Gaea!
 

Undead Scottsman

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That's only because they backported those characters to other comics before the issues where they premiered happened.

Which is why Circuit Breaker just randomly shows up in Secret Wars 2 and, like, never again in any Marvel stuff outside of Transformers.

There was actually a comic a few years back called Avengers A.I. that starred a bunch of robot and synth characters and she would have made a fantastic villain to oppose them, but nope.
 

Haywire

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So, how does that work for fiction, then? Lyzack appeared in Club fiction (along with an SG form of Esmeral, I think?), so were those unauthorized appearances, or is it really only an issue if they make toys of them?
 

Undead Scottsman

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Yeah, I don't mind them having such a clause, but for goodness' sake, do something with them, then, or just let them go.

Incidentally, it's a wonder we haven't seen Hasbro produce a Circuit Breaker figure yet, since they have the Marvel license.

They literally only just announced a ROM figure despite having had the Marvel license for ages, and he at least had the title role in a comic that lasted 75 issues and 4 annuals.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelLegends/comments/1ecxst7
 

Undead Scottsman

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So, how does that work for fiction, then? Lyzack appeared in Club fiction (along with an SG form of Esmeral, I think?), so were those unauthorized appearances, or is it really only an issue if they make toys of them?

It depends on what the contract is and each contract is different. I don't know about any of the manga but I do know a bit about Marvel.

For instance, the character Machine Man first appeared in Marvel's 2001: A Space Odyssey comic (which became a sort of anthology series unrelated to the movies) and yet he shows up all the time. (Most memorably in Nextwave, but in other stuff since then. Strangely not in Avengers AI though).

Meanwhile, G.B. Blackrock first showed up in Transformers and since he was used in IDW1, it looks like Hasbro has the rights to the character.

ROM was a Hasbro property to begin with but a lot of the surrounding lore - his homeworld, other named spaceknights, his human companion) stayed with Marvel and they even did a Spaceknights miniseries in the 2000's that just, kind of.. talked around the character of ROM.

Micronauts is a Hasbro property, but the character of Bug, despite first appearing in Micronauts, stayed with Marvel and was actually a member of the Guardians of the Galaxy. He had a different name, shared with a Micronauts toy, but he apparently looks nothing like that toy so they renamed him to Bug.
 

Sabrblade

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So, how does that work for fiction, then? Lyzack appeared in Club fiction (along with an SG form of Esmeral, I think?), so were those unauthorized appearances, or is it really only an issue if they make toys of them?
In the same Instagram comment thread, this was posted by David "ItsWalky" Willis in regard to that very question:

"Lyzak wasn't a new toy, just a comic appearance, so perhaps that matters. But my guess is that Fun Publications used them not realizing there'd be rights issues and then nobody cared."
 

MrBlud

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It’s possible(?) they can be used freely in the medium in which they originated but if you do something outside that (ie toy, show, etc) then you’d have to license it.
 

LordGigaIce

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Two of those are characters whose first appearance wasn't in official Transformers media, though.
Yeah. Like Marvel making sure Circuit Breaker got into a Secret Wars comic before she appeared in Transformers was a ploy to keep the rights to her. Notably had she appeared first in a Transformers comic then she would have been a Transformers character and been Hasbro IP.

So it's strange that a publishing house making a manga specifically to promote a Transformers anime would keep the rights to all original creations. Usually (at least in the west) any characters created for that work would go to the owner of the IP who awarded the licence.
 

Sabrblade

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Yeah. Like Marvel making sure Circuit Breaker got into a Secret Wars comic before she appeared in Transformers was a ploy to keep the rights to her. Notably had she appeared first in a Transformers comic then she would have been a Transformers character and been Hasbro IP.

So it's strange that a publishing house making a manga specifically to promote a Transformers anime would keep the rights to all original creations. Usually (at least in the west) any characters created for that work would go to the owner of the IP who awarded the licence.
It's possible that it's actually Masumi Kaneda and Ban Magami personally who own the rights to their own original creations from the manga, rather than Kodansha specifically.
 

LordGigaIce

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It's possible that it's actually Masumi Kaneda and Ban Magami personally who own the rights to their own original creations from the manga, rather than Kodansha specifically.
I admit I'm not familiar with how work for hire contracts work in Japan, but it just strikes me as weird that they could write Transformers manga and that they or their publishers would own original creations made for the licence they're working on.

Like I'm pretty sure Hasbro owns Rung, not James Roberts or IDW.
 


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