HasLab Reveal 2/7/2025

LordGigaIce

Another babka?
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Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
Citizen
Also, this is the Liokaiser thread.
 

LordGigaIce

Another babka?
Citizen
If the unofficial transforming toy companies with comparatively little resources could come up with ways to build combiners out of smaller robots, I’d expect Hasbro and Takara to be able to do the same. It’s clear that that was never their design priority for this set and that’s fine. Just not my $300+ fine.

Of course, a lot of the unofficial toy companies eventually started doing the frame approach themselves because it’s easier and they learned that their buyers didn’t care how the sausage was made, so to speak. I’m sure HasTak were watching fandom response to those when they planned to redo the combiners.
There are only two 3P Liokaisers as far as I know- TFC's version and Iron Factory's.

TFC's works the legs, thighs, and feet into the individual robots with only the hands being extra pieces... but overall the set is trash. I owned it, I know.

Iron Factory's has even more faux combiner parts than Hasbro's offering.

Iron Factory Killbison:

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Sciflyer

Two arms and one smile
Citizen
I have absolutely zero connection to these characters, but I love the set. I've only ever seen a G1 Liokaiser that a friend and fellow collector owns, so this is going to be a real treat. Backed hard.
 

Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
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In the AOTP thread, I posted a rundown of the Hasbro Pulse panel at MegaCon, but the video recording of the panel was missing the first part that went over the reveal of HasLab Liokaiser. Here is a different video that has just that missing part:


Unfortunately, the person recording kept the camera only on the panelists and ignored the slideshow images.
For areas that don't have Hasbro Pulse, select retailers will be listing Liokaiser on Monday. For the first time, even Brazil is listing this.

They consistently mispronounce Liokaiser's name as "Leokaiser".

Each individual bot is roughly 5.5 inches tall.

The terms they're using are "Chest Animal" and "Chestforce". For obvious reasons. "That's how we got away with that."

The decos in the renders are not final. They want to be animation accurate and there might be a deco update later.

The original Liokaiser had very little combiner kibble, so they wanted to recreate that as closely as possible. The only thing they had to add to make the combiner was the pelivs piece, everything else is completely built in and integrated into the individual figures, including the combiner head, which was a kibble piece on the original toy but is now completely stored inside Leozack. The hands are all stored inside Guyhawk, "Ellbat", and Deathcobra.

They HAD to call him "Ellbat". So, everybody just play it cool. If you say it real fast, it sounds like how it's supposed to sound. "It's in canon, now, he's British." The pose in the render is a reference to his hypnosis ability from the animation.

"Jaruga". This one was a bit contentious on how to spell the name, just because of the fun translations of L to R in Japanese. They shifted things around here and there, but they settled on "Jaruga" because Evan is from the Kre-O team and that's what they did back when he was on the Kre-O team. (NOTE: The Kreon's name was actually spelled "Jarugar".)

He turns into a dune buggy, but they didn't think that sounded cool enough, so they instead called it an "off-road race car".

Evan snuck in the "meme pose" for Killbison's render and no one called him out on it. He means this:

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One of the combiner feet is built into him. One of the things they learned from Combiner Wars Predaking was about how the combiner thighs were built into them and that made the bots really chunky, so that's kind of the reason they made the separate pelvis piece.

They're really confident about hitting the 10,000 backers for this set since the previous HasLab hit a whopping 27,000 backers (seemingly ignoring the facts that the last HasLab was both an Optimus Prime toy and based on one that actually appeared on American television).

They were insistent about doing Deathcobra. In addition to making him a spare arm for the combiner, they considered going the Seacon route by making him a blaster for the combiner, but because he's so heavy they decided to make him a shoulder cannon instead. In arm mode, the helicopter blades can act as a shield, taking inspiration from other Japanese anime shows that Evan is a fan of (he doesn't specify which but acts like if you know, you know).

The electromagnetic nunchaku were very difficult to turn into a toy since they can take any shape they want in the animation. They're actually using the Masterpiece Megatron chain piece to make it a combining element, so all the pieces can go together to form the long version. Six pieces included and can all combine together so you can make it as long as you want. They all store underneath the vehicle modes.
 

unluckiness

Somehow still sane
Citizen
There are only two 3P Liokaisers as far as I know- TFC's version and Iron Factory's.
I meant combiners in general. There are two unofficial Devastators coming out currently that have everything integrated. I think it’s a close enough comparison with the way the team is six members with two forming the torso.
 
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lastmaximal

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Council of Elders
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You either die a hero or live to see etc.
It's a real shame. I can't imagine there were no improvements that could've been feasibly made on a CW style combination with the torso bots going up TWO price points. But despite that sizeable upgrade, we went from "connect five bots together add fists and feet" to "connect five bots to like 60% of the actual combiner body".
 

Haywire

Collecter of Gobots and Godzilla
Citizen

I like the design, but not as a Megatron. Gonna need a new name for him.

He's stolen Cy-Kill's wheels-on-shoulders look! How about Renegade? Or Mega-Kill?

Also, this is the Liokaiser thread.

Sorry, but nobody's started a Timelines or Hearts of Steel thread yet and the convo's already here?

More on-topic, though, the pants thing is frustrating, but I'm not sure I'd be displaying these guys as Liokaiser anyway? Also, put me in as someone who would support an extra Clipper unlock!
 

Undead Scottsman

Well-known member
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There's definitely enough things wrong with that set that makes the already high $300 price tag especially galling. I'm considering canceling my order to be honest, now that my hype has died down a bit.
 

Exatron

Kaiser Dragon
Citizen
He's a Decepticon combiner, looks good, and is a big upgrade over the only version of him that I have (CW). So I'm all in.
 

unluckiness

Somehow still sane
Citizen
Why are you shitting on Liokaiser’s patented 360 degree security system? It’s works so well that Star Saber’s still paying royalties for using it despite being on the opposing faction.

Looks like there are hinges on the panel sticking up though. Might be possible to close it over the face
 


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