I'm sure he has plenty of supporters...
Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
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Marching down the streets chanting about violence being the "only one solution" in America's city where the most Jews live. It's fine. Everything's fine.
I didn't think these uh protests could get any worse, but being at night dials everything up to 11.
I didn't think these uh protests could get any worse, but being at night dials everything up to 11.
From a few years ago, but I don't think we discussed it here. The gist is that for all their relentless sadism, Hamas' strategy is going to continue failing because they do not understand their enemy. That likewise goes for Hezbollah, IRGC, and all the leftists now calling rape and infanticide "liberation."
www.timesofisrael.com
Hamas’s forever war against Israel has a glitch, and it isn’t Iron Dome
Why Hamas promises another war soon, and another and another. And why it won’t work
www.timesofisrael.com
On some level, hamas knows that israel (and most israelis.) have no where else to go, which is why their ideology calls for genocide.
My Palestinian boss just sent the school teachers a message via our social messaging group...
My boss is one of the kindest and hard-working people I know. He often goes without money so that other colleagues get paid and works almost 7 days a week. He even wanted just a few hours to deal with his family getting blown up before coming back to work.
My boss is one of the kindest and hard-working people I know. He often goes without money so that other colleagues get paid and works almost 7 days a week. He even wanted just a few hours to deal with his family getting blown up before coming back to work.
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Israeli Airstrikes Surge In Gaza, Killing Dozens At A Time In Destroyed Homes, Witnesses Say
The airstrikes crushed residential buildings and buried families under rubble, as Gaza health officials reported hundreds killed in the past day, including children.
THIS is why many people in the world are waving Palestinian flags en-masse. Israel's response is DISGUSTING. There's no excuse for this behaviour, even in light of what Hamas did to them.Israeli Airstrikes Surge In Gaza, Killing Dozens At A Time In Destroyed Homes, Witnesses Say
The airstrikes crushed residential buildings and buried families under rubble, as Gaza health officials reported hundreds killed in the past day, including children.www.huffpost.com
The damage done to what ever is left of Israel's reputation globally is huge, IMO.
I saw people talking about this when it happened but missed that HRW had confirmed it:
www.hrw.org
www.hrw.org
Israel: White Phosphorus Used in Gaza, Lebanon
Israel’s use of white phosphorus in military operations in Gaza and Lebanon puts civilians at risk of serious and long-term injuries, Human Rights Watch said today in releasing a question and answer document on white phosphorus.
Questions and Answers on Israel’s Use of White Phosphorus in Gaza and Lebanon
Human Rights Watch has determined based on verified video and witness accounts that Israeli forces used white phosphorus in military operations in Lebanon and Gaza on October 10 and 11, 2023, respectively.
And a Jew was fired for caring enough about Palestinian people to...retweet an Onion article.
If we can all recite from memory the reasons why the Salvation Army, Autism Speaks, Emily's List, and the Supreme Court are unreliable and compromised - and I suspect everyone here can - then we should be able to recognize that Human Rights Watch has behaved in a biased manner towards Israel in the past and doesn't get an automatic pass as the judge of truth. Their own founder says they are unreliable on I/P.
Israel has been repeatedly accused of using white phosphorus in the last decade or so and it always turns out to be bogus.
fullfact.org
pesacheck.org
Israel has been repeatedly accused of using white phosphorus in the last decade or so and it always turns out to be bogus.
Video shows an attack in Ukraine, not Gaza - Full Fact
Many claim the video shows “white phosphorus bombs” being used in the Gaza Strip.
fullfact.org
FALSE: This video is not of white phosphorus bombs being dropped on Gaza by the Israeli Army
The video is of a Russian attack on Ukraine in March 2023.
pesacheck.org
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As for The Onion, they constantly, robotically mock and deride Israelis for *checks notes* responding to accusations against them that have been shown to be wrong in the past, and also for not wanting to be raped and murdered. It is their One Joke, like the Babylon Bee's transphobia.
www.theonion.com
I think it's fair to say their latest crop of smug lefty grad students has crossed the line into antisemitism.
This one's just the cherry on top: clinical about attacks on Israel, shrieking with pity and outrage about Gaza, and ending with a lefty-student shibboleth about "none of us are free until all of us are free" AS THE PUNCHLINE.
www.theonion.com
I wouldn't have fired a guy for posting this - but I would have made him take the post down, because it was inflammatory, unfair, and stupid, and recommended he find a humor source that was actually funny and not just "latest content from your known IP".
Israel Military Reports It Was You, The Reader, Who Blew Up Hospital
GAZA CITY, GAZA—Following conflicting accounts of a horrific attack on a Gaza hospital, officials from the Israeli Defense Forces released a new statement Wednesday that claimed it was you, the reader of this very article, who committed the act of terror. Sources claim to have unequivocal proof...
www.theonion.com
I think it's fair to say their latest crop of smug lefty grad students has crossed the line into antisemitism.
This one's just the cherry on top: clinical about attacks on Israel, shrieking with pity and outrage about Gaza, and ending with a lefty-student shibboleth about "none of us are free until all of us are free" AS THE PUNCHLINE.
What To Know About What’s Happening In Israel And Gaza
On October 7, Hamas launched violent attacks on Israel, and Israel has since responded with violent attacks on the Gaza Strip, a bloody escalation of a conflict that has persisted for generations. The Onion tells you what you need to know about what’s happening in Israel and Gaza.
www.theonion.com
I wouldn't have fired a guy for posting this - but I would have made him take the post down, because it was inflammatory, unfair, and stupid, and recommended he find a humor source that was actually funny and not just "latest content from your known IP".
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This is surprisingly fair by Youtube Explainer Bro standards, he does a good job walking through a tense topic and not going overboard.
I would just add that people who still think, like the explainer does, that "any criticism of Israel gets called antisemitic," should really look at what the purported "criticism" was saying. We've seen huge rallies now in support of the rape and murder of Jewish people who happen to live in Israel, starting on Oct. 8th, the day after the massacre and before Israel had even done anything. That isn't "criticism" and it's very, very common. I sometimes ask people to show me what they consider to be "just criticism" that was unfairly called antisemitic, and what I've gotten back has been stuff from pro bono lawyers for Neo Nazis or a guy who write that 17th century Polish massacres of Jews were actually okay because the Jews were rich (which they weren't, not that it would remotely make a difference). "Israel's army is overreacting. There should be a ceasefire now." is not antisemitic - even if it's wrong it's not antisemitic - and I really have never seen anyone call a statement like that antisemitic.
Hostilities in the Gaza Strip and Israel | Flash Update #18 | United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs - occupied Palestinian territory
A total of 704 Palestinians, including 305 children, have been killed over the past 24 hours (as of 18:00 on 24 October), according to the Ministry of Health (MoH) in Gaza. This is the highest fatality toll reported in a single day in Gaza during this round of hostilities. The cumulative number...
From the article West Bank is apparently both getting hit with Hamas rockets that missed, and some sort of small Israeli action mentioned near the bottom of the "Key Points" section, but sounds like most of the injuries were related to demonstrations.
Oh, I'm sure it's a true statement as long as you have a low enough bar for what counts as "getting called" something. If you're a YouTuber with an audience of any significant size—like this guy is—you'll probably get called every nasty name in the book just for existing, and if it happens in the context of discussing politics, it's not going to be obvious how much of it is just YouTube comments being YouTube comments and how much of it is political arguments being political arguments.
Greta Thunberg said “Today we strike in solidarity with Palestine and Gaza. The world needs to speak up and call for an immediate ceasefire, justice and freedom for Palestinians and all civilians affected.” and her autism octopus got accused of being a Nazi kraken.
Greta Thunberg Was Targeted for an Octopus. Then Israel Chimed In
Greta Thunberg posted a photo in solidarity with Palestinians with an octopus on her shoulder, which other interpreted as an anti-Semitic dog whistle.
www.rollingstone.com
Welp, there goes her credibility.
Greta Thunberg said “Today we strike in solidarity with Palestine and Gaza. The world needs to speak up and call for an immediate ceasefire, justice and freedom for Palestinians and all civilians affected.” and her autism octopus got accused of being a Nazi kraken.
Greta Thunberg Was Targeted for an Octopus. Then Israel Chimed In
Greta Thunberg posted a photo in solidarity with Palestinians with an octopus on her shoulder, which other interpreted as an anti-Semitic dog whistle.
The octopus is a for-real symbol of antisemitic conspiracies and has been for over a century.
It isn't ALWAYS antisemitic, just like watermelon isn't ALWAYS racist; it needs to be evaluated in context. I am quite sure Greta Thunberg didn't know this, and her use of the symbol accidental (apparently it's a stimming / soothing thing), because she is ignorant and has no exposure to Jewish or Middle Eastern history. What's much more important is that her post was exclusively "stand with Gaza, free Palestine," now, after everything that happened. She couldn't find it in her heart to be sad about a fascist death squad massacring Jewish teenagers and taking dozens of actual babies hostage. Her exclusion of care for Jewish people - THAT was deliberate. And her unaccomplished, totemic, slam-poetry efforts at climate activism don't excuse her for it.
More thoughts from an Israeli who - unlike Thunberg - actually works to protect the environment:
Survivor of atrocities in open letter to Hamas supporter Gretta Thunberg
Opinion: Climate activist Shaked Shefy Cohen points out Thunberg’s ignorance of her and her community’s suffering after the massacre, invites her to visit and tell the world what she sees
www.ynetnews.com
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The Palestinians burnt thousands of acres of natural reserve, forest, etc. to ash when they were using balloons and kites strapped with Molotov cocktails and flammable materials to float over into Israel in several hundred arson attacks. "Climate Justice Now" in the context of this conflict is nonsensical, but I don't expect any of the morons in that picture to actually know anything about it.
Also, people seeing supposed Nazi imagery around every corner and freaking out about it on social media has been a regular thing for several years. It seems like a silly reach in that particular case, but in the aftermath of the bloodiest massacre of Jews in decades? And the open support for it by many on the activist side of the left? In an environment of spiking antisemitism? And are "autism octopi" really that common? Should it be widely known what that is? There have been far more ridiculous ass pulls.
Also, people seeing supposed Nazi imagery around every corner and freaking out about it on social media has been a regular thing for several years. It seems like a silly reach in that particular case, but in the aftermath of the bloodiest massacre of Jews in decades? And the open support for it by many on the activist side of the left? In an environment of spiking antisemitism? And are "autism octopi" really that common? Should it be widely known what that is? There have been far more ridiculous ass pulls.