Israeli-Palestinian Conflict

PrimalxConvoy

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Better them antagonizing our enemies than us, is all I can say.
 

Teufel

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I'd like to hear more about moral courage from... *checks notes* ...Hamas? Was it when they wiped out entire kibbutzim full of civilians? Blew up pizzerias and buses? Fired thousands of indiscriminate rockets into Israel?

They did this kind of jive with the Taliban, too. The world is watching, history will judge them, etc. Boggles the mind unless it's just for domestic consumption.
 

wonko the sane?

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The US also knows that you literally cannot stamp out an insurgency militarily. They're watching israel make 20 years worth of mistakes in a speedrun. Netanyahu also doesn't care, he wants to flatten gaza. Hamas doesn't care, because if they start agreeing to deals and returning all the hostages: it's the end of their power because they will get replaced with an actual palentinian state. Both of those parties want the status quo: whereing israel has an easy to access and manage enemy to demonize in their politics, and hamas has an excuse to threaten genocide and harvest the poor, and desperate to die for them.

There will be no peace until at least one of these elements are changed: and you can't stamp out an entrenched insurgency militarily.
 

PrimalxConvoy

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I'd like to hear more about moral courage from... *checks notes* ...Hamas? Was it when they wiped out entire kibbutzim full of civilians? Blew up pizzerias and buses? Fired thousands of indiscriminate rockets into Israel?

They did this kind of jive with the Taliban, too. The world is watching, history will judge them, etc. Boggles the mind unless it's just for domestic consumption.
Not to mention their current enemies, Israel, who have committed what some would say is (arguably) incidental genocide.

Wasn't that the point of the message; to ask both sides to be good for once?
 

Thylacine 2000

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The Biden administration, working urgently to stave off a full-scale Israeli invasion of Rafah, is offering Israel valuable assistance if it holds back, including sensitive intelligence to help the Israeli military pinpoint the location of Hamas leaders and find the group’s hidden tunnels, according to four people familiar with the U.S. offers

Is there a way to interpret this other than that Biden knew where the hostages are, and by extension knew where NOT to bomb, and never told Israel and still hasn't?
 

wonko the sane?

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That the US doesn't know these things, but has the means to acquire that information faster and easier than israel does.

What do you want to bet that ol' nutty will skip the information just to punish the people of gaza?
 


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