Nobody has the intention to invade Ukraine

[Pocket]

They might as well come pre-equipped with white flags. Luckily they're pretty easy to make.

 

[wonko the sane?]

Not for a russian. That state issue underwear is so old it's yellow.

 

[Nevermore]

Russian embassy accidentally shares map ignoring Putin's bogus land claims in Ukraine

The map tweeted by Russia's embassy in Sweden showed regions Putin illegally annexed, including Crimea, as part of Ukraine.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Ungnome]

I think the Swedes are gonna find a few Russian diplomats who accidentally fell out of windows soon.

 

[Anonymous X]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1617879495620558893

‘Funny’ how British far-right and far-left politicians have the same position on the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Just as they were and are both anti-EU.

 

[wonko the sane?]

I agree with the sentiment that diplomacy must resume.

Diplomacy cannot resume until russia has had a change in management: because as it stands russia cannot be trusted to negotiate in good faith or abide by any terms laid down, even the ones they put forth. The slaughter continues until putin decides the war is over and no else.

Don't know why british politicos are in favour of supporting fascism.

 

[Nevermore]

Don't know why british politicos are in favour of supporting fascism.

Ooooooh boy.

 

[Pocket]

Diplomacy cannot resume until russia has had a change in management: because as it stands russia cannot be trusted to negotiate in good faith or abide by any terms laid down, even the ones they put forth.

And neither can the UK.

 

[wonko the sane?]

There's probably a lot of governments (of various sizes and responsibilities.) that fall under such a statement.

 

[Ungnome]

Heck, most governments. Problem with the Putin regime isn't that they go back on their word, it's that they plan on going back on their word before they even make an offer.

 

[Ironbite4]

Ooooooh boy.

Yeah gonna second the Oooh boy because as we've seen in recent years, Britain loooooooooooooooves facism.

Ironbite-and they're really not hiding it any more.

 

[Tuxedo Prime]

Ooooooh boy.

Is this the part where we say, "Sir Oswald Mosley has entered the chat?"

 

[wonko the sane?]

So hey... The ICC has issued a warrant for putin.

From MSNBC

I saw a video about in my youtube feed, and then looked it up. So yeah: bout damn time.

 

[Ironbite4]

That is amazing.

Ironbite-and also shows just how far Putin's fallen.

 

[Rhinox]

But does it really mean anything? Is Putin going to travel anywhere where said warrant would be enforced?
Don't get me wrong, I think this is necessary, but without a viable path to get him, a warrant is just a useless piece of paper.

 

[PrimalxConvoy]

But does it really mean anything? Is Putin going to travel anywhere where said warrant would be enforced?
Don't get me wrong, I think this is necessary, but without a viable path to get him, a warrant is just a useless piece of paper.

It is useful as it's an official declaration of his crimes and it officially limits his international travel to only countries that won't officially recognise the warrant.

...If Putin were to leave Russia, Putin “would be arrested and surrendered to ICC,” he said. “World leaders will think twice before shaking his hand or sitting with Putin at the negotiating table. It’s another clear signal to the world that the Russian regime is criminal.”

Ukraine is not a member of the court, but it has granted the ICC jurisdiction over its territory and ICC prosecutor Karim Khan has visited four times since opening an investigation a year ago.

The U.S. does not recognize the court’s jurisdiction and Moscow formally withdrew its signature from the founding statute of the ICC in November 2016, a day after the court published a report classifying its annexation of Crimea as an occupation.

While it is unlikely that Putin will end up in prison, it further labels the country and its leader as a pariah, said Wayne Jordash, who is leading teams of Ukrainian and international prosecutors and investigators in Ukraine. That will affect Putin’s ability to travel and could hinder Russia diplomatically.

“It now puts pressure on any country, which is a signatory to the ICC, to the Rome Statute, to arrest him if he ever travels to those countries,” he said. “These are countries which may in the past have been somewhat reserved about criticizing or voting in the General Assembly against Russia’s invasion. So I think this puts a huge amount of pressure on Putin, too.”...

 

[wonko the sane?]

Actually, there is an INTERNAL chance of him being handed over to the court. If some enterprising russian wants to push a regime change: this is now an option for getting back into good international graces while simultaneously pulling off a "bloodless" coup. They take putin alive, drive his ass in chains to ukraine, and hand him over for trial.

I mean, I also figured one of the oligarchs would have pulled off a 9mm retirement on putin by now as well... at least one can dream.

 

[Ungnome]

Putin probably plays the oligarchs against each other to help maintain power. He goes, civil war starts and they know it.

 

[wonko the sane?]

oppressed people and very quickly coming to the point of "nothing to lose", I don't see how they don't end up in a civil war anyway.

 

[PrimalxConvoy]

oppressed people and very quickly coming to the point of "nothing to lose", I don't see how they don't end up in a civil war anyway.

Russia's economy isn't as bad as some have said. Internally, it's quite stable and many people there only have state media as their primary information source. Many of those who've protested against the war (or, for various reasons, been opposed to it) have either fled, been imprisoned, killed or forced into silence. As such, it seems only a handful of people really dare to speak out.

Here's the BBC's report on Putin's arrest warrant:

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