Police behaving badly

Pocket

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I don't know what about police unions in particular would make them more effective than any other union in protecting their dudes from consequences. What is effective is society's underlying assumptions that cops are always the good guys, that interfering with their ability to do their work constitutes helping criminals, that district attorneys' job is to work with them not against them, and that even if there is such a thing as "corrupt cops", it means the kind who are too soft on crime, not too hard on innocents (as exemplified by basically every piece of Batman media ever).

And if that all fails, there's always good old fashioned intimidation from the cops themselves, who are legally allowed to carry a gun around everywhere and use it to threaten people.
 

MrBlud

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I don’t think I’ve *ever* seem a Police Union admit that a member fucked up regardless of the circumstances and severity of said hug up.

A teachers union isn’t going to respond with “well what were they wearing?” if one of them gets caught raping a student but you get the equivalent when say a Cop uses their knee to choke someone in custody for nine minutes in order to kill them.
 

Pocket

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I suppose it's a matter of unions being a power multiplier for whoever they represent. In much the same way that unions representing already-horrendously-overpaid people like actors and athletes are used to make them even richer, unions representing violent thugs enable them to be even more violent and thuggish.

So then the question becomes "Should it literally be illegal for certain professions to unionize?"
 

Rhinox

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A few years ago I'd have said yes. But that was before I was railroaded due to corrupt administrators.
I believe this is one of those things where there are no good or easy answers. All paths have significant downsides.
 

Nevermore

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I suppose it's a matter of unions being a power multiplier for whoever they represent. In much the same way that unions representing already-horrendously-overpaid people like actors and athletes are used to make them even richer, unions representing violent thugs enable them to be even more violent and thuggish.

So then the question becomes "Should it literally be illegal for certain professions to unionize?"
The problem with the actors example is that for every ridiculously overpaid actor, you get like a thousand of them who are underpaid, and those certainly do need the union to represent their interests.

And this is also where one of the strengths of a well-run union comes into play: If everyone pays an equal percentage of their income - not a fixed sum, but a percentage of their actual income - as a membership fee, then the underpaid actors actually benefit from the overpaid ones, because the overpaid ones will put a shitton of money into the union's funds that can then be used to support the causes of underpaid actors.

It's called "solidarity". If the higher earners remain part of the system, it benefits everyone - this is a genuine version of real trickle down economics.
 

Ungnome

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Is the same case where they issued an amber alert for her abduction AFTER they killed her?
 

PrimalxConvoy

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Woman handcuffed in police car hit by train... and survives.
Bodycam footage has captured the moment a train collided with a police car in Colorado... with a woman handcuffed in the back seat.

The woman survived, but suffered several injuries.

(Source: - https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-63083486 )

 

KidTDragon

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What the hell happened here? The cop tripped on his own feet and decided that that required shooting the kid?
 

Pale Rider

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"The vehicle and its driver were later found down the road, and the victim was taken to University Hospital in critical condition, MySA reports."

That cop unloaded a jive-load a bullets at the kid. I wonder how many hit him.
 

Pale Rider

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Where to begin? Instead of knocking on the window, the cop just startled the kid by opening his car door and saying "Get out of the car". And when the kid tried to drive away, the cop just emptied his gun at him. And finally, there was a passenger in the car, whose life the cop was equally unconcerned with.

The San Antonio police department says this is a "probationary" officer, which I assume means he's new. And this insane behaviour really makes you question the training methods they're using. You would think that a new cop would be hesitant to switch to full Judge Dredd mode, but this one seemed pretty eager, almost as if he just wanted an excuse.
 


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