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LordGigaIce

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I was curious about something, since both DC Comics and Transformers toys were made by Kenner at the time, as a result of Hasbro assigning Kenner all of their boys action figure brands in the mid-90s.

Yet Dinobot's stamp says Hasbro.

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And just to confirm... yes his package did say Kenner.

And this isn't a case of Hasbro's name being there because it was the parent company. Batman's says "Kenner." And yes, so does his card.

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This ultimately pointless minutia is just the kind of thing to send me down a rabbit hole on a Saturday with nothing to do so...

The box for Machine Wars Optimus Prime is clearly labelled as Kenner. And yet...

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Huh. Hasbro. Hold on though, MW Optimus was a redeco of G1 Thunderclash, from before Hasbro shunted their boys division to Kenner. Ok except... that's clearly a 1996 stamp, which would track for a toy released in 1997. I checked my G1 Thunderclash, just to be sure. And yep...

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...it's different. 1992 dates, and the old Hasbro wordmark. Meaning that they bothered to mould in a new stamp for MW Optimus, well into Kenner's tenure with Transformers, but still opted to use Hasbro on the new mark. Interesting. Well let's jump ahead a few more years.

Animorphs was released as part of the Transformers brand for... reasons... and I guess this makes them the first ever Crossover/Collab figures? Anyway by 1998 everything was back under the Hasbro banner with Kenner being fully integrated into the parent company, and this is reflected by Visser Three's box, which displays a Hasbro logo. I was curious though, to see if maybe they'd started stamping the Transformers stuff as "Kenner" just before switching back to Hasbro, but no.

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Hasbro. And made in Thailand. Interesting. Anyway that seemed to be it, right? By 1998 everything was Hasbro again, and all the stamps and branding matched.

Except...

...well...

...Visser Three came with some pack-in material.

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G-ddamnit.
 

lastmaximal

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So the parent company is what gets the stamp? Makes sense I think. May have to do with ownership of the steel molds themselves.

I do miss growing up in that era where there were so many names and companies. Even now, in other sales environments, the illusion of so many brands is mostly kept alive partly so that a marketplace still seems vibrant and competitive, rather than a third of it all funneling toward Nestle or Kraft.
 

LordGigaIce

Another babka?
Citizen
So the parent company is what gets the stamp? Makes sense I think. May have to do with ownership of the steel molds themselves.
I thought so too, except that Kenner's 90s Batman figures had Kenner stamps, despite being owned by Hasbro at the time.
I thought that the early BW stuff was stamped as Hasbro because maybe those moulds were cut before the transition to Kenner was fully completed? Except that new tooling from well into Kenner's tenure still said Hasbro.

My best guess that that despite shifting Transformers to Kenner to consolidate all their boys brands under one banner, Transformers was still considered a "Hasbro" property since it was IP Hasbro owned and cultivated. Meanwhile the DC stuff kept "Kenner" because Kenner's DC licence pre-dated Hasbro owning them, so they just kept the Kenner stamps going after buying them out.
Hasbro had a brief run with DC stuff after shifting everything back to the Hasbro brand, and I'd be curious to get my hands on one of those figures to see if they have a Hasbro stamp or if they kept the Kenner stamp.

I do miss growing up in that era where there were so many names and companies. Even now, in other sales environments, the illusion of so many brands is mostly kept alive partly so that a marketplace still seems vibrant and competitive, rather than a third of it all funneling toward Nestle or Kraft.
Amen. It just seems like everything's being consolidated into two or three big companies, regardless of field. Toys, food, entertainment, even sports apparel.
When I was a kid every major sports league had multiple apparel and uniform suppliers, but in the early 2000s leagues started handing out exclusive contracts to one big outfitter. The loss of licences killed the small and medium-sized suppliers, and now we live in a hellscape where everything is either Adidas or Nike, and they all share a supplier via Fanatics.

There's a deeper issue at play about capitalism run amuck, but I'll stear clear of that because this isn't P&R. I'll just focus on the creative end...
It doesn't matter how much money, or what resrouces, a company has. They can have the deepest pockets and the most talented people on staff... the creative work will reflect being produced by the same the small group of people. Their style, their voice, will become the dominant creative energy.

Back when there was more variety, you could count on different companies having different voices and creative visions. Except now... with everything seemingly consolidating... the pool of distinct voices viable at retail have diminished.
 


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