President Biden pardons Hunter Biden

MrBlud

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Two things

1) Biden shouldn’t have done this.

2) Hunter Biden *was* unfairly sentenced (but not unfairly prosecuted) because of his connection to President Biden

Maybe it’s the dystopia (…or the last election) talking but the schadenfreude from Conservatives freaking out that Biden lied (he did) and this means certain people are above the law (it does) when they just elected someone 1000x worse on both points to another term in office is just delicious.
 

Wheelimus

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Just one last middle finger to Trump from Dark Brandon.

I'm going to miss this come January when we're all in hell.
 

Ungnome

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Disagree with the pardon(actually, disagree with numerous things Biden has done), but can't say I'm not smiling a little at the Republican's getting a big middle finger from Biden on his way out.
 

Shadewing

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Yeah, just reading this title made me think: This is Biden flipping the Republicans off before he leaves office.
 

Rhinox

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If I'm being honest, I really don't care.
So what? Hunter is not going to be in any sort of politics. Biden is one step from the grave.

This was a gesture. one that won't have any real bearing on anything come January.
 

Steevy Maximus

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If I'm being honest, I really don't care.
So what? Hunter is not going to be in any sort of politics. Biden is one step from the grave.

This was a gesture. one that won't have any real bearing on anything come January.
Eh, the talking heads will point to it for the next four years as “Biden was just as bad as Trump!” When Trump starts his unethical (possibly illegal) shenanigans come next spring.

MrBlud sums up most of my views on the subject. And I can’t even be assed enough to make a fraction of a fuss given how much conservatives tried to build up Hunter’s business dealings into the next “Hilary’s emails” for years. Not to mention all the guff Joe got through just being elected.
Joe got him some meager retribution for decades of jive conservatives have given him. I’m not about to hold myself to a higher standard and say I wouldn’t have done something similar, just out of spite.
 

CoffeeHorse

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I don't care.

Yes, politicians shouldn't be above the law, and their unelected family members who serve no function in the system certainly shouldn't be above the law, but there is some use in wiping the slate clean and letting this family just go away now. They're done. Hunter can go get a job. The country is moving on from this chapter whether we all like it or not.
 

Pale Rider

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Trump has made it clear that he's going to task his DoJ with persecuting his enemies, real or perceived. I can't blame Biden for wanting to shield his son from that. I don't like it, but I understand it.
 

Pocket

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This isn't shielding him from anything. His sentence was already pronounced, and double jeopardy applies just as much to the guilty as the innocent. Unless you're saying this gives him the opportunity to flee the country along with everyone else Trump has it out for, which he couldn't do from prison.
 

Pale Rider

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Unless you're saying this gives him the opportunity to flee the country along with everyone else Trump has it out for, which he couldn't do from prison.

Yes. That's what I'm suggesting. I mean, just look at the worm he wants to put in charge of the FBI.

 
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Rhinox

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Lot of anger from the right wing and Faux news. Almost as if they're deliberately ignoring the fact that they willingly voted for a convicted felon who was very generous with his pardons provided it served his purpose.

Look, they're trying very hard to make this a thing, but it just doesn't matter. Biden is done. Kamala is done. Everyone associated with this administration is done. They're all going to go back home, tail betwixt legs and lick their wounds. 4 years time, provided we do get to have elections, they may try to bring this up, but it's a simple matter of saying "hi, I'm not Joe" and it loses its effectiveness.
 

Pale Rider

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Let just recap Trump's Hall of Fame of Pardons:

We've got Michael Flynn, who lied to the FBI, and Roger Stone, convicted of witness tampering and obstruction. Both heroes of the Russia investigation cover-up.

Then there's Paul Manafort, whose crimes were so blatant even his ostrich jacket couldn't distract from them.

Let's not forget Steve Bannon, who literally swindled his own supporters, or Joe Arpaio, who made racial profiling his brand.

Trump also handed out get-out-of-jail-free cards to Eddie Gallagher, accused of war crimes, and the Blackwater guards who massacred unarmed Iraqi civilians.

Need more? How about Jared Kushner's dad, Charles, who went full soap opera with tax evasion and witness tampering, or Rod Blagojevich, who tried to sell Obama's Senate seat.

But sure, Hunter Biden's tax and gun charges are clearly the pinnacle of corruption...
 

CoffeeHorse

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A lot of Republicans were hoping Hunter would challenge the constitutionality of the gun charge. Now it's moot.

They won't admit it, but that's where some of the outrage is coming from.
 

The Mighty Mollusk

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The media only cares because it's a diversion from all of Trump's horrifyingly anti-competent picks for his cabinet. They want the focus to be on what that there dirty Dem is doing, not what their guy is about to hug up.
 

Pale Rider

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Biden has no need for political capital anymore. He'll never hold elected office again, but he and his family may very well be targeted for reprisals by the incoming administration.

So it would be almost weird if he hadn't done this.

Unfortunately, it's going to fuel Republican whataboutism for the foreseeable future at least as much as "buttery males" did.
 

Steevy Maximus

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Legal Eagle posted a response. It's one of those things that I see his points...but it's also well past the point, IMO, where such concerns are that pressing. The comments section MASSIVELY (and with a good deal of respect, mind you) in disagreement with his position. Most of the comments echo'ed what we've been saying here: Trump has vowed vengeance against his enemies (real or imagined) and the Bidens were well within his crosshair. I agree, in particular, with one commenter who noted that, had Harris won the presidency, Biden would not have done this.

 

Shadewing

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I'm also in the camp of "There's no way Biden would have done this if Harris had won." The man is otherwise too straightlaced to do something like this under normal circumstances. Hell, I'd even go so far to say that Bide probably wouldn't have done this if the republican nominee had been anyone else. This is purely due to Trump winning and not republicans in general.
 
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Pocket

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Honestly I'd have more respect for him if he came out and said, in as many words, that he and his family and a bunch of other prominent Democrats are actively planning to flee the country before Trump's inauguration, and this was necessary to prevent Hunter from being left behind.

Because it would send a clear message to the rest of the country that the experts genuinely believe this is a necessary course of action, and that the rest of us should at least be taking steps to put the option on the table and not wait.
 


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