With Alton Indigo Soong already established, I'm not sure why we need to speculate. If it's different, that's fine, but an easy explanation is already low-hanging fruit with trying to resurrect a long-deconstructed android
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Because speculating is fun?
When we already know the most likely answer? Seems pointless rather than "fun," but okay.
I'm going to have to stop watching this show week to week before I genuinely start to sound like Fandom Menace in my hatewatch log
The bit with the two Picards was good because it's Patrick Stewart doing what he does best, The Picard Speech. Everything with Jurati was great, I find Alison Pill steals the show more often than not, can't wait to see what comes next. I find Jurati a very interesting character, because no matter the situation, you can count on her to just do the worst thing, because she's a shut-in bio-cyberneticist and is completely out of her depth the whole time, and that's not something Trek does a lot.
Not looking forward to what I assume is next week's episode, the voyage into Picard's mind to deal with the childhood trauma the character didn't need crowbarred into his backstory. Maybe Patrick Stewart and Orla Brady can salvage something from that...
Not looking forward to what I assume is next week's episode, the voyage into Picard's mind to deal with the childhood trauma the character didn't need crowbarred into his backstory. Maybe Patrick Stewart and Orla Brady can salvage something from that...
Well this is starting to look more and more like the case.
Yeah, it seems like we could also see that...
...the gang traveling to the past is what sets into motion the alternate future, not what stops it. Introducing a Borg queen onto Earth in 2024, before First Contact from any other alien species, would definitely result a few centuries of xenophobia. Also seems like a very Q thing to set up, to show how fragile humankind's 24th-century "enlightenment" actually was. So maybe they stop the Borgnes in 2024, and avert the fascist future... but then in a final-act surprise, she survives and manages to travel to the timeline we saw at the start of the season to take revenge. Or something.
Either way, around this time last season I remember saying this just wasn't a good show, and then it managed to get worse. This season has felt like a significant improvement.
...the gang traveling to the past is what sets into motion the alternate future, not what stops it. Introducing a Borg queen onto Earth in 2024, before First Contact from any other alien species, would definitely result a few centuries of xenophobia. Also seems like a very Q thing to set up, to show how fragile humankind's 24th-century "enlightenment" actually was. So maybe they stop the Borgnes in 2024, and avert the fascist future... but then in a final-act surprise, she survives and manages to travel to the timeline we saw at the start of the season to take revenge. Or something.
Either way, around this time last season I remember saying this just wasn't a good show, and then it managed to get worse. This season has felt like a significant improvement.
Picard's speech in this episode was just amazing! I loved it and it reminded me of the good old days with Picard on TNG. He didn't need a top of the line ship and crew, he just needed a problem that he could use his massive experience and epitome of humanity to solve.
Now if you will excuse me, I am going to go watch TNG S4E2 Family.
Now if you will excuse me, I am going to go watch TNG S4E2 Family.
See, to me she's cute and relatable and her plot has been the most grounded in Trek terms with the least new elements and rules thrown at it every episode, so with this last it was the part I was enjoying the most. Followed by Picard's speech ("No. Fear is fear. It does not speak in riddles.")
What if it's more than a nod and is the same character?
True. I suppose it's possible the time cops could exist outside the normal timelines. I still think the Guinan not knowing him thing was just a last minute "Oh.. oh yeah, we totally meant to do that!" excuse and did not in fact give it that much thought. I dunno what to think but it was a nice last minute touch.
But yeah, you're probably right. It's just a nod by having the same guy.
But yeah, you're probably right. It's just a nod by having the same guy.
It would be really nice if they'd get to the point one of these millenia.
Yeah, I saw someone lay out what they need to resolve in the next three episodes and:
Is an awful lot to handle. Maybe some of those will in themselves resolve others, but that's a hell of a lot of balls in the air. And we didn't even see anything related to point 4 this episode!
Also you totally know that the casting choice was on purpose when
- Jurati slowly becoming a new Borg Queen
- Whatever mystery remains within Jean-Luc's mind
- Making sure Renée's journey into space happens without further interference from Q and/or Soong
- Soong's work and Kore's discovery of it
- Jean-Luc and Guinan being taken into custody by the FBI
- Rios with the young doctor with her son
- Q not being "well" and the reason why he's doing all of this
- Getting back to the 25th Century
- The Borg Queen on the Stargazer
- The Watcher = Laris' ancestor?
Is an awful lot to handle. Maybe some of those will in themselves resolve others, but that's a hell of a lot of balls in the air. And we didn't even see anything related to point 4 this episode!
Also you totally know that the casting choice was on purpose when
Gaius Baltar is the father of someone who's now effectively a skinjob Cylon.
I guess it's par for the course for this show. I remember in the first season they ****ed around for 6 or 7 episodes and then crammed everything they could into the last couple. That was one of the many problems with it.
This season over all is much better, much more interesting, and much more cohesive. But trying to resolve all those plots so quickly is just another sign of the bad pacing.
This season over all is much better, much more interesting, and much more cohesive. But trying to resolve all those plots so quickly is just another sign of the bad pacing.