Star Trek: The Original Series and The Next Generation

[The Predaking]

I just went through a whole bunch of s2 DS9 and just had to say that the the set of 22- The Wire, 23- Crossover, 24- The Collaborator and 25- Tribunal were the nail-biting set of tense episodes to string together. Geez!

The Wire got me aghast at the three war crime stories Garak said and I'm not even sure which was real. Great acting on the pain he felt from the device too.

Crossover, the episode was ending and I wasn't sure how Kira and Bashir were going to fix everything. Odo exploding was too much. And we didn't see Quark executed either.

Collaborator, wthex were those dreams of the that guy Vedek that Kira was with? What the hex ending was that?! Winn is a beach! How in heaven's did they let this happen?! Geez!

Tribunal was frightening. They really had to show how O'Brien was humiliated. What the hex was up with Cardassian justice, where the verdict was known and the trial was for show. They had two days, then hours to find a loophole else O'Brien was to be killed. Terrifying.

These eps seriously didn't need to be strung together. My heart could only take so much, haha

The wire is a great episode. Although any episode featuring Garak is a great episode, this one in particular is a great one. As for which of his stories were true, none of them were. That was the point, you cannot believe anything Garrak ever says, with the two exceptions of the times he was completely honest with Sisko. They aren't specific later on on why Garrak got exiled, but it wasn't for any of those stories.

Crossover was a neat mirrorverse episode that deals with the fallout from Spock bringing the Terran empire down. Expect to see more Mirriorverse in the future. And yeah, Odo's death was one of the more gruesome deaths on Star Trek. Right up there with that one TNG episode.

Collaborator, yup, it was a crazy ending allowing her to become Kai, and she has the position for the rest of the series so expect more from her. Like I said previously, she does a great job making you hate the character.

Tribunal is just one fo those make O'brien suffer episodes. Trust me it gets worse.

 

[ooo-baby]

How Lucille Ball saved Star Trek before it began:

Ball stood by the show through two pilots being shot and a massive budget, and the rest is history. A studio accountant named Edwin "Ed" Holly is on the record as saying "If it were not for Lucy, there would be no Star Trek today." Without the support of Ball, “The Cage” would have been the end of Star Trek.

 

[The Predaking]

If it weren't for Lucy, a lot of stuff would be different today. Orson Welles wouldn't have been in the Transformers Movie as he would have just been some old actor that was murdered in 1956. She talked Desi down from shooting Welles.

While working with Lucille Ball, Ron Friedman asked her about signing Orson Welles to Desilu Productions for a brief period. Friedman says that Lucy and Desi approached Orson during an odd time. He was living at the Chateau Marmont, he owed $100,000 to a nearby liquor store, and was charging sex workers on a credit card. The arrangement was they would cover Orson’s debt and he would live in their Palm Springs home while writing something for them.

Seven to eight weeks went by and Orson Welles hadn’t written anything. To make it worse, he was buying a morbid amount of food, alcohol, and tailored suits on Lucy and Desi’s charge account. The day finally came when Desi asked what the tab was up to. When Lucy told him, Desi cried out “That’s it!” He pulled a gun out, stating “I’m gonna talk to him.” Desi had been drinking, and Lucy said, “You’re not going to drive to Palm Springs now in the middle of the night with your gun while you’re half loaded.” Desi simply replied, “I’m gonna talk to Orson, and he’s gonna answer me correctly.”

The next morning Desi returned, and Lucy asked what happened. Desi said, “I put the gun in his nose and I said, ‘You fat #$@#, you’re gonna bring us something we can shoot in three weeks or I will kill you.’” Ten days later Orson turned in a script for The Fountain of Youth, a Peabody Award winning short that aired on Colgate Theatre.

 

[G.B.Blackrock]

The way I read that, Lucy didn't actually stop Desi from anything. Desi simply didn't commit murder. He still went out, with the gun, while drunk, and had the confrontation.

 

[ooo-baby]

 

[wentwood]

I finished Beyond a while ago.

Also Picard III on Paramount +.

I doubt we'd see another movie after Beyond.

 

[Sabrblade]

If it weren't for Lucy, a lot of stuff would be different today. Orson Welles wouldn't have been in the Transformers Movie as he would have just been some old actor that was murdered in 1956. She talked Desi down from shooting Welles.

The way I read that, Lucy didn't actually stop Desi from anything. Desi simply didn't commit murder. He still went out, with the gun, while drunk, and had the confrontation.

The exact story told by Ron Friedman himself (starts at 00:52):

 

[ooo-baby]

There no reason why Picard could not have accepted Q’s offer to be a member of his crew and have him dispose of the Borg like this:

 

[ooo-baby]

Before the release of the Undiscovered Country, they had hyped up a Next Generation episode that would tie in with the movie.

There was no direct connection between this:

and this:

It was just a small reference

 

[The Predaking]

The way I read that, Lucy didn't actually stop Desi from anything. Desi simply didn't commit murder. He still went out, with the gun, while drunk, and had the confrontation.

She told him not to the first time, and then after Orson quit after the first script, she stopped Desi from shooting Orson, as the video mentions.

 

[The Predaking]

There no reason why Picard could not have accepted Q’s offer to be a member of his crew and have him dispose of the Borg like this:

Q didn't want to destroy the borg, he could have done that in an instant if he wished. He wanted to use the Borg as a tool to end the Federation's golden age and push them further down the road.

 

[The Predaking]

It fills me with indescribable rage that at 0:53, a Defiant class ship shows up and fires its forward phasers, but they come out as continuous beams instead of a string of pulsed blasts.

But for Enterprise E, I'm content to accept that Worf lost it in a Noodle Incident.

Edit:

Oh, right, and they said they wanted Soji in there too, didn't they? As someone else with a TNG parent....

I hadn't heard that about Soji, but I hope not. Not too crazy about her character.

 

[Copper Bezel]

Looks like it was speculation based on him talking about involving Kestra and his having wanted to do a Data / Soji scene in S3.

There's not a lot to her as a character but I wouldn't mind having an android crew member and being Data's daughter would suit the setup. Depending on how the show worked I have no doubt they could get something interesting out of her, but that would depend on how interesting the show actually turned out to be. I'm still stuck with the feeling that even Paramount+ can't justify two concurrent shows about a young crew on a Constitution class Enterprise running around having adventures.

 

[Destron D-69]

technically she's the daughter of dead data though, so would either of them really see the other as parent/child... I could see that being the basis for an ongoing story for the two of them... but as a reason to include her on her own... nah. leave her alone like they did with her dead sister nobody talks about

 

[ooo-baby]

Star Trek: The Original Series, like the Twilight Zone, had prominent Nazi episodes, where the Nazis pretty much took over the world.

Was this realistic and possible? Germany is a small country. I don’t know why they even thought they could invade and take over Russia, the largest land mass on the planet.

 

[Copper Bezel]

technically she's the daughter of dead data though, so would either of them really see the other as parent/child... I could see that being the basis for an ongoing story for the two of them... but as a reason to include her on her own... nah. leave her alone like they did with her dead sister nobody talks about

And she had the fake background memories and all that anyway, so he wouldn't have been a feature even if he wasn't dead at the time. But she's definitely part of Data's legacy and has heard a lot about him since. I don't think it has to be a Disney Descendants thing exactly. I'd also accept children of still-dead characters too if they were on offer, like if Ro had a kid or something.

 

[G.B.Blackrock]

She told him not to the first time, and then after Orson quit after the first script, she stopped Desi from shooting Orson, as the video mentions.

Thanks for translating the video for me. I was merely commenting on the ambiguity of the previous write-up, and didn't care enough about the matter to watch the video.

 

[ooo-baby]

Lucille Ball is the original Trekkie.

Orson Welles is Unicron.

Conclusion: Star Trek the Original Series is the best! G1 Transformers is the best!

It is logical.

 

[Destron D-69]

And she had the fake background memories and all that anyway, so he wouldn't have been a feature even if he wasn't dead at the time. But she's definitely part of Data's legacy and has heard a lot about him since. I don't think it has to be a Disney Descendants thing exactly. I'd also accept children of still-dead characters too if they were on offer, like if Ro had a kid or something.

I'm still holding out hope that Ro got out of there.

 

[The Predaking]

Ro is dead. I think that Season three gave her a great redemption for her character and a great conclusion to her and Picard personal issues. We lost Ro, Shaw, and Shelby in Season 3, but there is always the Black Mountain.