And look where that got him.Picard even wanted to reason with the Borg the first time he ever met them, despite Guinan insisting over and over that doing so was impossible.
Naw, if TOS hadn't made enough impact for the movies and TNG to exist, it'd just be one of those weird old shows like Lost in Space and Battlestar Galactica. I suppose we would have all been Doctor Who fans, yuck.If there was only the Original Series, like there was for so many years, I’d like to believe all of you would still be here as Star Trek fans.
If not, the Next Generation would have you covered.
Those two shows are Star Trek’s bread and butter.
…the man was a sexist,…
Any ... anybody wanna tell him, I don't think I canTasha Yar
Any ... anybody wanna tell him, I don't think I can
Dude that's how every Star Trek actor makes a living, they were typecast for life. Denise Crosby quit the show because she didn't have anything to do but stand hot and look boobs and you used her as an example of Gene Roddenberry not being sexist. What the actual ******* ****
How come neither of these two ever got any TOS episodes where they were the main star of the story, hmm?I think Uhura, Yeoman Rand,
Uh-huh, compare her episodes and development to Worf after he took her place and we'll talk. Meanwhile the other ladies in the main cast are the doctor and the psychiatrist. Marina Sirtis would have had to wear that ridiculous bodysuit through the whole series if she hadn't taken advantage of Jellicoe putting Troi in uniform to argue that she should get to keep it for continuity, and Sirtis and McFadden have both talked about the limitations of their roles on camera and the dismissal of their input behind the scenes.Might I remind you that Denis Crosby was cast as Head of Security over Worf. If you think that’s sexist, I can’t help you.
I should note that of that list:I think Uhura, Yeoman Rand, Dr. Pulaski, Tasha Yar, Beverly Crusher, Marina Sirtis, Janeway etc. would disagree. They all owe Roddenberry their jobs and paychecks, their very livelihoods.
I should note that of that list:
Uhura - was having an affair with Gene.
Yeoman Rand - Left the show after being sexually assaulted.
Pulaski - enjoyed her guest roles on TOS, but hated the environment of TNG so she left after a season.
Tasha Yar - was fired. Came back a few times after Gene's death.
Beverly Crusher - was also fired, with some dubious undertones there. She was brought back after a season.
Marina Sirtis - Was almost fired, but they got rid of one of her fellow actresses instead.
Janeway - was cast years after Gene's death.
So you're saying, that if Roddenberry was trully sexist, all of his shows would be sausage parties, no girls allowed? There's absolutely no way, that a sexist producer would ever cast a woman in his show?I think Uhura, Yeoman Rand, Dr. Pulaski, Tasha Yar, Beverly Crusher, Marina Sirtis, Janeway etc. would disagree. They all owe Roddenberry their jobs and paychecks, their very livelihoods.
...are you saying that's a good thing, or a bad thing? I don't think any actor should have that much pull on anything they work on.William Shatner had a big ego. What he wanted and said was what made it to the screen. Shatner had control of the set. He had Roddenberry’s ear, and he used that to maximize his screen time.
William Shatner would never allow a scene like this to happen with him as Captain:
The writers would be fired.