Studio Series 86 Appreciation Thread

LordGigaIce

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To be fair, Studio Series was once the least G1 line that Hasbro had and it's not a surprise people are a little miffed that it's just become yet another venue for G1 toys, to the point of getting multiple redos of figures that already got toys recently in WFC. (Ironhide/Ratchet, Arcee, Ultra Magnus, now Optimus) while there's still a ton of movie figures that haven't gotten anything yet.
It's more necessity than anything. While yes, there are movie designs that SS hasn't touched, those are few and far between. At least when it comes to marketable characters. The marketable movie characters have all had SS releases. Sometimes multiple times.
So faced with the prospect of winding down a successful retailer line due to a decreasing roster of potential releases or keeping it going by shifting gears, it's no surprise they did what they did.

Especially if they can sell it to retailers as a compliment to a successfully selling Generations WFC/Legacy line.

I do long for the ambitiousness of the UT.
The brand was in a very different place when the UT was conceived.
 

Andrusi

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Yes, its such a shame that the line that focuses on screen accuracy, is in fact, focusing on screen accuracy. What is the world coming too?
You phrased this to make it sound like the person who dares not like it is Obviously Just Stupid, but "screen accuracy" and "G1 cartoon accuracy" are not, in fact, synonyms.
 

Princess Viola

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Also while I know this is specifically the Studio Series 86 thread, I was talking about the way the Generations toyline as a whole has been for quite some years now.
 

lastmaximal

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I'm a G1-er in general, though not exclusively so by any means. As such, I've actually been very pleased with the mix we've been getting lately. The mix of actual G1 figures (including some pretty deep cuts), different-series existing characters in a G1-esque aesthetic so that they can mix right in with with my current collection, and brand new wacky ideas/characters (all the various shades of weaponizers/armorizers/Rock Lords/etc) is pretty much exactly what I would have designed as my line of choice.
Same, a bit.

I've always wanted something along the lines of Cybertron, with a something-for-everyone angle that has a little of everything and homages everywhere. And to an extent the Legacy trilogy (as well as Selects) is bringing that, with mixed results. But it all falls kind of flat without the kind of fiction/media fun Cybertron had (the show, the fan club comic, etc). Give me that, with a dash of the fun the Speedia race manga and early Titans Return fiction bits had, and I'd be enjoying this a lot more. It'd certainly be a lot less of a cynical "who do I need from this wave" exercise.
 

Sabrblade

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But it all falls kind of flat without the kind of fiction/media fun Cybertron had (the show, the fan club comic, etc). Give me that, with a dash of the fun the Speedia race manga and early Titans Return fiction bits had, and I'd be enjoying this a lot more. It'd certainly be a lot less of a cynical "who do I need from this wave" exercise.
Well, if the Netflix WFCT cartoon hadn't been so miserable, we might have gotten a sequel Netflix Legacy cartoon to accompany the toyline.
 

lastmaximal

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I mean, if it had been of similar quality and tone, it probably wouldn't have hit the spot anyway. It certainly didn't feel like a loss at the time it was revealed that Netflix passed on it, after what preceded it.
 

Donocropolis

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Same, a bit.

I've always wanted something along the lines of Cybertron, with a something-for-everyone angle that has a little of everything and homages everywhere. And to an extent the Legacy trilogy (as well as Selects) is bringing that, with mixed results. But it all falls kind of flat without the kind of fiction/media fun Cybertron had (the show, the fan club comic, etc). Give me that, with a dash of the fun the Speedia race manga and early Titans Return fiction bits had, and I'd be enjoying this a lot more. It'd certainly be a lot less of a cynical "who do I need from this wave" exercise.

That is very true. I would love to get SOME kind of accompanying fiction. I would even take 3-4 sentence blurbs on packaging that give a quick glimpse into who this character is and what they are doing. If done well, you would be able to piece together the rough shape of the story by reading enough boxes.
 

CoffeeHorse

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The marketing department can only work so many days a year.
 

Undead Scottsman

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Wasn't the problem basically that Hasbro has utterly cheaped out on packaging, so they make one generic package that can be used in lots and lots of markets, but that means they have to translate everything, so the more text they add, the more they have to pay for translation and, again, they've utterly cheaped out on packaging.
 

MrBlud

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They could do online/app stuff. I can’t imagine having people knock out a Tech Spec or two would be prohibitively expensive even just running it through an online translator for other regions.
 

Dake

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They could do online/app stuff. I can’t imagine having people knock out a Tech Spec or two would be prohibitively expensive even just running it through an online translator for other regions.
IIrc, many countries legally require any printed words to be translated in print as well. So it's either NO words, or words in all the languages.
 

LordGigaIce

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Same, a bit.

I've always wanted something along the lines of Cybertron, with a something-for-everyone angle that has a little of everything and homages everywhere. And to an extent the Legacy trilogy (as well as Selects) is bringing that, with mixed results. But it all falls kind of flat without the kind of fiction/media fun Cybertron had (the show, the fan club comic, etc). Give me that, with a dash of the fun the Speedia race manga and early Titans Return fiction bits had, and I'd be enjoying this a lot more. It'd certainly be a lot less of a cynical "who do I need from this wave" exercise.
I get the issue with a lack of fiction to a degree but at the same time... Kingdom was a test run for what I wanted them to do, and Legacy fulfilled the promise- a toyline that mixes Earth-based vehicles, scifi concepts, and beastformers into one line. It's Cybertron if Cybertron leaned a bit more into the homage side of things and that checks all the boxes I like.

So I rather have the toyline even if it means no fiction then not have the toyline because there's no fiction.

That is very true. I would love to get SOME kind of accompanying fiction. I would even take 3-4 sentence blurbs on packaging that give a quick glimpse into who this character is and what they are doing. If done well, you would be able to piece together the rough shape of the story by reading enough boxes.
Universe 2.0 had a really cool backstory told exclusively through package bios. The Decepticons were scattered and Galvatron appeared out of nowhere to lead them. It was sort of a re-imagining of the s3 G1 Decepticon status quo with the mysteriousness around Galvy turned up to eleven.

But given comments made by the brand team.... maybe the lack of bios on Legacy is a good thing?
Take Minerva. Someone (Mark, I think) said that Minerva "lost the ability to be a headmaster" when she went through the multiversal portal.
Thing is... Minerva wasn't a traditional G1 Japanese headmaster. She was a human in an exosuit that became the head of the robot. So... is Minerva now just a robot? Is her corpse supposed to be decaying in that head like the Emperor of Mankind?

Thing is that Mark's(?) statement is just unnecessary. The lifeless transtector Minerva piloted became a sentient robot at the end of Masterforce so if you weren't going to make Minerva a Titanmaster you could just say "oh that's the Minerva transtector after it gained a spark."

So given that example... maybe it's best that the brand team isn't getting too invested in the fiction 😅
 
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MrBlud

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IIrc, many countries legally require any printed words to be translated in print as well. So it's either NO words, or words in all the languages.

I don’t mean on the packaging itself. Just written on the app or an online site or something.

kinda like the old Cyberkey codes.
 

Sabrblade

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hey could do online/app stuff.
They do! That's what the QR codes on the Legacy toys' packaging are for. Scanning those leads to a character page on Hasbro's website with short bio information on each Legacy toy character.
 


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