The 2024 Us Presidential Election Thread

Axaday

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All of the House seats that NBC called during the night were consistent with my county model.

NBC Calls: 200 Blue, 211 Red
My Calls: 5 Blue, 7 Red ----> 205 - 218, which just edges GOP control
12 Seats to close to call lean 7 Blue, 5 Red ---------> My best guess is 212 - 223, a net gain of 2 seats for the Republicans.
 

Ungnome

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Yup, super close, Senate is about the same. Slightest amount of dissension in the republican ranks will make it difficult to for them to pass anything. Reps and senators in swing districts/states could be the only thing keeping the worst aspects of the republican agenda from going through. A great many of those seats were won by the slimmest margins.
 

wonko the sane?

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Wonko, I've been reading you for 20 years, I think, and I will keep doing it. I think of you as an online friend and a capable foil that holds me accountable to think through the things that I say. I value that. But you spent the last 6 months at least telling me and everyone else that a Trump victory was abjectly impossible and the result of the election doesn't seem to have humbled you. *The rest snipped for brevity*.
Thank you Axaday. You've been a reasonable, fairly intelligent person, and I've enjoyed our shared interactions.

1.) I never said it was impossible, I said the math didn't support it. And yeah, apparently I was wrong.
2.) One does not go from hope to terror to find humility.

I've spent the last year trying to keep everyone's hope up, to convince a sometimes quite fatalistic group that everything is going to be alright. Because I want my friends to believe, and to know that they are going to be okay!

We NEEDED harris. The world needed harris. We needed a US that actually acknowledged the problems the world faces, and sets both tone and pace for DEALING with those problems. Now you've got a climate change denier as president, a vaccine conspiracy theorist as medical oversight. Elon musk will be responsible for gutting government agencies if trump deems them wasteful or unnecessary. Remember puerto rico? Trumps response to hurricane maria? That's going to be the ENTIRE country, with his response based solely on how much the local government kisses his ass. So many americans are going to die; needless, preventable deaths. That's not even touching on womens right, transright, LGBTQ rights, human rights...

And it's going to affect canada very badly as well. We can no longer trust that our closest neighbour and biggest trading partner won't go ******* mafia on us. There was an opinion poll a couple of weeks ago that stated poilievre is largely believed to be better able to handle trump than trudeau. We're going to end up with a poilievre administration in '26, and that rat faced, squinty mother fucker is going to salute trump, give him everything he wants, then lodge himself so far up trumps ass he's see daylight if it weren't for the diaper.

And internationally, everything just became a tinder box: trump hates nato, and nato does NOT have the means to support individual sovereign rights across the planet without the US. Ukraine is probably fucked even if it takes another decade, maybe even taiwan. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised is north koreas makes a run on the south.

Is it the end of the world? No, absolutely not. But it's a darker ******* world today.
 

Axaday

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Yup, super close, Senate is about the same. Slightest amount of dissension in the republican ranks will make it difficult to for them to pass anything. Reps and senators in swing districts/states could be the only thing keeping the worst aspects of the republican agenda from going through. A great many of those seats were won by the slimmest margins.
The story is a little different from the last 4 years when getting something done meant passing legislation that would be palatable to both parties. It was hard to get Freedom Caucus votes for that. For the next 2 years, at least, they'll have a shot at working on plenty of things that 218 Republicans will like.
 

Ungnome

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RFK was once a more reasonable man and has clearly lost it over the past few decades. Musk and Trump are cut of the same cloth. Only reason I can see Trump ditching Musk is because their egos keep getting in each others way.
 

Anonymous X

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Saw this earlier on when picking up my daily newspaper…
 

Dekafox

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From https://fed.brid.gy/r/https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:ovyajbnegrir2ddtwfhijiob/post/3lafpy5c6w72l
The main thing you need to know is that the system of fascism is designed to make you give up and to disorient you. Resistance first and foremost is in helping yourself overcome those two

It will be wildly unsettling. It will be somehow both incredibly fast, and also incredibly slow. It will be both wildly disruptive, and many things will look the same. Things you expect to break will be subverted instead, and things you think are unbreakable will not hold. It will be disorienting.

Things will be destroyed in ways that make them look whole, but they will be hollowed out, and people around you will tell you nothing changed. It will be disorienting. Things that are supposed to be fair, will not be. It will make you want to give up. That is what it is *for*.

Life will go on. Rent will be due. People will go to work. Classes will still be held. The world will not stop. It will be disorienting. It will make you want to give up. It is designed to disorient and demoralize you into being cynical and giving up, and to stop believing a better world is possible
 

Axaday

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Only reason I can see Trump ditching Musk is because their egos keep getting in each others way.

I am surprised that Trump shared a stage with Musk. And if he really does give him a big job, that'll surprise me too. Is there any dimension that matters to Trump where Musk doesn't exceed him? I think that'd be a problem for him somewhere along the way.
 

TM2-Megatron

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and that rat faced, squinty mother fucker is going to salute trump, give him everything he wants, then lodge himself so far up trumps ass he's see daylight if it weren't for the diaper.

I disagree, but I'm not going to waste my time arguing with someone so prone to hyperbole. As much as I don't like Justin after 9 years, I did vote for him in 2015 and I still give him credit for the few things he's managed to accomplish.

I don't think I've ever said anything quite that hateful about him, though, no matter how much the corruption angers me at times. Nor anybody, over mere political differences. Get some help, cuz with THAT attitude the liberals WILL lose. And they'll deserve to.

And yeah, yeah, I'll shove it up my own ass, thanks. You don't need to reply to tell me to do so, lol.
 

MrBlud

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I don't think I've ever said anything quite that hateful about him, though, no matter how much the corruption angers me at times. Nor anybody, over mere political differences. Get some help, cuz with THAT attitude the liberals WILL lose. And they'll deserve to.

And yeah, yeah, I'll shove it up my own ass, thanks.
A lack of decorum did just lead to massive Republican Congressional losses and Trump getting defeated in a landslide.

Oh wait, the exact opposite of that happened.

So yes, by all means, follow your own advice.
 

The Predaking

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Hey. Keep it civil here folks. I know that we are all angry, sad, and every other negative emotion right now, but lets keep it civil.
 

Anonymous X

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I don’t get the whole “people voted Trump because they were insulted by the other side” narrative. It’s bollocks. I mean, the pro-Trump side were the ones lacking decorum and civilised manners. FFS, their whole modus operandi is being as openly unpleasant and thuggish as possible! Their führer lacks any filter, as the common parlance goes.
 

G.B.Blackrock

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I have to agree with a bit of that (it was Trump's side that was truly rude, and indeed did things for the sole purpose of making their opponents angry so that they could mock said anger), but there's really no denying that they reacted badly to being considered... well, all the things that liberals said about them, no matter how correct those things were.
 

Shadhausen

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A lack of decorum did just lead to massive Republican Congressional losses and Trump getting defeated in a landslide.

Oh wait, the exact opposite of that happened.

So yes, by all means, follow your own advice.
Yeah, because being civil to them worked SO well in the past.
 

MrBlud

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Words are essentially meaningless when it comes to politics. Be they offering comfort or harm.

Trump will doubtlessly tank the economy. Provided we still get elections, Vance will lose because the economy is worse. It won’t matter how many people he bullies or races he denigrates. Just like it didn’t matter how many Women Harris comforted or races she thanked.
 


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