Wonder what that part of the base will have to say about that when Palestine stops existing next year.
The 2024 Us Presidential Election Thread
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So what we learned from this election is basically this.
The Dems would rather hand the election to their opponents rather than vote for an imperfect candidate (or maybe just a woman)
The Republicans will gladly vote for people who openly work against their interests, and believe in a man who told them the same lies that he told them the first time he failed to make anything better.
Awesome. I always said that purity politics were the dems biggest problem I just didn't imagine they would doom the country over it.
The Dems would rather hand the election to their opponents rather than vote for an imperfect candidate (or maybe just a woman)
The Republicans will gladly vote for people who openly work against their interests, and believe in a man who told them the same lies that he told them the first time he failed to make anything better.
Awesome. I always said that purity politics were the dems biggest problem I just didn't imagine they would doom the country over it.
I really hate this line. Everyone knew if something happened to Biden she would take over. There really wasn't any time to go through a whole primary given how late he dropped out. If you were going to vote for Biden knowing that if something happened we would have President Harris then it makes no sense to balk at just voting for President Harris when something happened to Biden
It cannot be underestimated just what level of CATASTROPHIC damage a Republican Trifecta with Supreme Court oversight will inflict on the nation and spill over to the rest of the world.
*The ACA? Gone. Won't last a year. They don't need a concept of anything to replace it & they never will.
*Legal abortion? Done for. The token state-level protections won't survive the national ban that's certainly coming.
*Gaza & Ukraine? Both leveled. And conflict will spill further across the regions. Netanyahu & Putin now know they will not be stopped.
*LGBT/Civil Rights? Decapitated. cases are already cued up to topple Obergfell. Once Donald puts in his other Justices that won't come back for close to a CENTURY...
*with RFKJr in charge of Health that likely means no more vaccine mandates- on top of childhood maladies becoming full on plagues that probably ALSO means no new COVID boosters so whatever tenuous hold we had on that pandemic is out the window.
*Separation of Church & State? Toast. Future graduating classes will know more about the Ten Commandments then the periodic tables.
*Social Security & Medicare? Gutted. More kickbacks in their pockets; no handouts for THE POOR.
*Tariffs and mass deportations will make Dubya's Great Recession seem like a pleasant windfall.
And the Democrats have NOBODY to fight back with. Biden's done for, Bernies' just as old and useless, Harris will never work again and any members of the so-called "Progressive Squad" will get just as trounced for just the same reason.
If you're able to escape; if you can help others get out- do so. Because as of yesterday the American Experiment is essentially over.
"Let the months and years come; they can take nothing more from me..."
*The ACA? Gone. Won't last a year. They don't need a concept of anything to replace it & they never will.
*Legal abortion? Done for. The token state-level protections won't survive the national ban that's certainly coming.
*Gaza & Ukraine? Both leveled. And conflict will spill further across the regions. Netanyahu & Putin now know they will not be stopped.
*LGBT/Civil Rights? Decapitated. cases are already cued up to topple Obergfell. Once Donald puts in his other Justices that won't come back for close to a CENTURY...
*with RFKJr in charge of Health that likely means no more vaccine mandates- on top of childhood maladies becoming full on plagues that probably ALSO means no new COVID boosters so whatever tenuous hold we had on that pandemic is out the window.
*Separation of Church & State? Toast. Future graduating classes will know more about the Ten Commandments then the periodic tables.
*Social Security & Medicare? Gutted. More kickbacks in their pockets; no handouts for THE POOR.
*Tariffs and mass deportations will make Dubya's Great Recession seem like a pleasant windfall.
And the Democrats have NOBODY to fight back with. Biden's done for, Bernies' just as old and useless, Harris will never work again and any members of the so-called "Progressive Squad" will get just as trounced for just the same reason.
If you're able to escape; if you can help others get out- do so. Because as of yesterday the American Experiment is essentially over.
"Let the months and years come; they can take nothing more from me..."
So what does this mean for his Georgia trial now?
State trials won't move forward even if they have the means and rights to do it. Trump will threaten those states with cut funding or worse unless they stop.
Trump got around the same number of votes. Harris was shy about 20 million from Biden.
From what I've seen online there are at least two possibilities for this.
Option one is that the Democrat base wasn't as on board with the installed candidate as was hoped, so they didn't turn out to vote.
The second possibility is that there were 81m votes last election but were not necessarily 81m registered voters and that wasn't as easy to duplicate this time around.
What are other possible factors to consider?
From what I've seen online there are at least two possibilities for this.
Option one is that the Democrat base wasn't as on board with the installed candidate as was hoped, so they didn't turn out to vote.
The second possibility is that there were 81m votes last election but were not necessarily 81m registered voters and that wasn't as easy to duplicate this time around.
What are other possible factors to consider?
This, maybe? (I really don't know how reliable it is, but...I still say that such a drastically lower turnout makes no sense)
In my area, it was 100% turnout(though I am in a red state, so it wouldn't have made a huge difference). Remember how I said I saw a 25% turnout earlier? I just looked at the 2020 results. IN 2020 we had over a 65% turnout locally, down to 25% this election. And this year we actually had 5% more total registered voters, so it wasn't people getting purged.
People just didn't go vote.
People just didn't go vote.
CNN hosts stunned that Harris failed to outperform Biden's 2020 numbers | Fox News Video
CNN's Jake Tapper expressed shock at learning that Vice President Harris hadn't outperformed President Biden by three percent or more in any county across the U.S. he won in 2020.
www.foxnews.com
Seeing as we are living in an absurd nightmare we might as well have fun with it.
Biden should wait until mid December and then resign, making Harris the 47th president.
You know that the Trumpers will have been printing up and buying all this 47 merch with Trumps ugly mug on it. Ruin that jive by making him 48 instead.
Biden should wait until mid December and then resign, making Harris the 47th president.
You know that the Trumpers will have been printing up and buying all this 47 merch with Trumps ugly mug on it. Ruin that jive by making him 48 instead.
I always thought that AOC might be the first female president. However, she has had years of the right just demonizing her, that I doubt she could pull it off now.
She’s charismatic and populist.
Things that Hillary (and Kamala) certainly were not.
Now, it’s entirely possible you’ll have the Democratic Party do something incredibly stupid like nominating a centrist white guy (like Shapiro) and they might even win in 2028 because they’ll be running on anger but then you’re gonna run into the same problem as Biden. They aren’t going to fix anything (again) and that’s how you have 20 million of your base sitting out.
Things that Hillary (and Kamala) certainly were not.
Now, it’s entirely possible you’ll have the Democratic Party do something incredibly stupid like nominating a centrist white guy (like Shapiro) and they might even win in 2028 because they’ll be running on anger but then you’re gonna run into the same problem as Biden. They aren’t going to fix anything (again) and that’s how you have 20 million of your base sitting out.
What amuses me about the "missing votes" is you have BlueAnon conspiracy theorists saying it proves 2024 was rigged while you also have MAGA conspiracy theorists saying it proves 2020 was rigged because this time they couldn't whip up fake ballots or something.
All these people need to be tricked onto an ice floe and pushed out to sea.
All these people need to be tricked onto an ice floe and pushed out to sea.
Well, this happened.
apnews.com
Fulton County Police Chief says they received 32 bomb threats to polling stations
Out of 177 polling places in Georgia’s Fulton County, 32 faced bomb threats on Election Day. Police Chief W.
apnews.com
If there is an investigation: they've got till jan 3rd to get it done, because after that it's going to be bullshit like hunter bidens laptop 24/7.
Edit: I mean an investigation into the election, not novasabers post he snuck in while I was typing. I'm not sure why EVEN MORE THREATS OF VIOLENCE from the trump cult even makes the news.
Edit: I mean an investigation into the election, not novasabers post he snuck in while I was typing. I'm not sure why EVEN MORE THREATS OF VIOLENCE from the trump cult even makes the news.
Democratic politicians aren't making any serious shift to the left anytime soon. Politicians' policy follows the voters, and "the left" is a fickle group. I mean, any serious leftists would have voted for Kamala, because what the absolute hug, you're just gonna let Trump win again? He just held a damn Nazi-cosplay rally in Madison Square Garden. Any group of people that weren't motivated enough in 2024 to prevent a second Trump presidency is never going to won over by any Democratic candidate.
Additionally, I just don't think there are enough progressive-left voters in America to support a presidential bid. As much as I hate to say it, we are a much smaller group than we want to believe. The hardcore-left needs rid itself of purity culture and start building coalitions.
Additionally, I just don't think there are enough progressive-left voters in America to support a presidential bid. As much as I hate to say it, we are a much smaller group than we want to believe. The hardcore-left needs rid itself of purity culture and start building coalitions.
45% of the Country doesn’t care enough to vote.
You have to reach and energize those people. You do that by championing a living wage, you do that by championing affordable healthcare, etc
Then, should you manage that, you actually have to deliver. An FDR administration can last 12 years, a Biden one can only last 4.
You have to reach and energize those people. You do that by championing a living wage, you do that by championing affordable healthcare, etc
Then, should you manage that, you actually have to deliver. An FDR administration can last 12 years, a Biden one can only last 4.
I agree the establishment Democrats are stupid enough to shift in the wrong direction, but they shouldn't. It's the exact wrong lesson.
Honestly, I think the fact that Democrats care more about appealing to Republican voters than they do about appealing to Democrat voters pisses off even many Democrats who are close to the center.
And that's the exact strategy that failed them this time. Despite all the high-profile Republican endorsements of Kamala, they didn't get any significant number of votes from Republicans or right-leaning people, they only lost votes from people on the left who saw both main candidates as having too much in common. (Which, I must reiterate, I think is dumb because you should vote based on how the candidates are different and ignore similarities as irrelevant to the decision.)
In literally every single election since I've been old enough to vote I have heard the exact phrase "they're both the same" far more than I have ever heard anyone called "too far left" by people who normally vote Democrat.
Honestly, I think the fact that Democrats care more about appealing to Republican voters than they do about appealing to Democrat voters pisses off even many Democrats who are close to the center.
And that's the exact strategy that failed them this time. Despite all the high-profile Republican endorsements of Kamala, they didn't get any significant number of votes from Republicans or right-leaning people, they only lost votes from people on the left who saw both main candidates as having too much in common. (Which, I must reiterate, I think is dumb because you should vote based on how the candidates are different and ignore similarities as irrelevant to the decision.)
In literally every single election since I've been old enough to vote I have heard the exact phrase "they're both the same" far more than I have ever heard anyone called "too far left" by people who normally vote Democrat.