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Axaday

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I suppose that's largely dependent on how you feel about exploding rockets.
I feel terrible about them when they are actual missions with crew. When it is a test flight for new technologies, I understand that it is par for the course. This is when you are supposed to find out what does and doesn't work, Boeing.
 

Ungnome

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CEO of three companies and running doge. Kinda shows how much work he actually does as a CEO, doesn't it.
 

Ironbite4

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I think you are really only talking about Tesla. Tesla is having some trouble and Musk is the CEO and 12% owner. Honestly, I think it would be to his own advantage right now to get a new CEO and place and possibly divest.
FUN FACT! Almost all of Elon's "wealth" is tied up in Tesla. The more the company and stock tanks, the more his net worth drops. Yeah, he might be CEO and owner of 6 or 7 businesses but only one of those is designed to make money. Here's a hint, it's the one that's being targeted by protesters right now.

Ironbite-physically and successfully.
 

Axaday

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CEO of three companies and running doge. Kinda shows how much work he actually does as a CEO, doesn't it.
Yes, if I were a CEO, I would be extremely ticked at him right now. After all the work I put in trying to make it look like I do 1000 times more work than everyone else.
 

Ironbite4

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Funner fact! Tesla stockholders and board members want Muskrat to choose one or the other cause his actions are hurting the company badly. BUT MUSKY WON'T CARE BECAUSE HE'S ALL IN BABY WHOOOOOO!

Ironbite-he's also gonna be a nice sacrificial cow when Trump needs a parachute to pull to deflect criticism.
 

Rhinox

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Yes, I was referring to Tesla alone. As Ironbite mentioned, that's where the majority of his 'wealth' comes from. he is extremely overleveraged and as Tesla stock continues to nosedive, his ability to function on the stage he's accustomed to shrinks.
With only a 12% stake, I would not be surprised to see a shareholder uprising that boots him out on his ass. I doubt it'll do much good at this point though. Tesla has lost the left dollar. No one wants a swasticar. Booting Elon will also lose the company the conservative dollar, not that those accounted for much. Europe will continue to punish Tesla and the continued threats from Bondi and other mouthpieces over here is only goading more and more agitators to invest in molotov cocktails.
 

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I don't think they have to worry about losing the conservative dollar by booting Elon, because I don't think it was a significant thing. But I'm not sure how badly they've lost the left dollar or how long that will last. Shares dropped to $222 and are back at $276. It has been higher than it is now, but it usually hasn't been. It spiked to $436 in December and I don't know what that was about, but it was probably not based on fundamentals and was never going to last. Regular Joe's with an ETrade probably cleared out, but they don't organize board coups. I'm not sure serious investors have a beef.

It will be interesting to see how it goes. I'm no analyst for the car industry. For many years it has seemed Tesla was the go-to/frontrunner on electric cars. Cybertruck was a bizarre move from the get-go and it is the one getting recalls, but I believe on the technical side the company is totally capable of jumping past this. Are their actual cashcow cars having a problem? The trouble on the MARKETING side is kind of a nightmare, but how quickly do people move on? Who is the real competition with the progressives who still want an electric car?
 

The Mighty Mollusk

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The problem is that if they boot Musk, they know the vindictive little prick will point DOGE at them next. And I highly doubt any of them have skeleton-free closets. So, which is worth more to them?
 

Rhinox

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The problem is that if they boot Musk, they know the vindictive little prick will point DOGE at them next. And I highly doubt any of them have skeleton-free closets. So, which is worth more to them?
Booting him won't suddenly relieve him of his shares. If he points anything their way, he'd be ******* himself over. Even more than he already is.
 

G.B.Blackrock

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Who is the real competition with the progressives who still want an electric car?
If you'd asked that just a few years ago, I'd say there really wasn't any. Nowadays, there are several options. Some of the mainstream brands, and several newer ones. None as firmly established (at least, in the specific electric car market) as Tesla, perhaps, but perfectly ready to rise up and take its place in a time like this.

If you asked me to name just one, I'd say Rivian is one to watch.
 

Rhinox

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Seems Elon and his antics have been pushed off the front pages by the whole Signal debacle. I wonder if he's actually taking the time to lay low and see if the stock recovers a bit before shoving his foot back into his mouth?
 

Dekafox

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Well that lasted all of a day.

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Yes, let's go to Musk instead of someone like Mandiant whose entire job is digital forensics for this sort of thing, if it even was anything other than someone mistaking one person's profile for another. Musk apparently has a hate-on for Signal too, so he'll probably throw out bad info on that, spin some excuse to try to get the staffers out of it, then push them all to Telegram(where everything is logged on the Telegram servers anyways for group chats - but look! Stickers!).
 

Axaday

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Well that lasted all of a day.

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Yes, let's go to Musk instead of someone like Mandiant whose entire job is digital forensics for this sort of thing, if it even was anything other than someone mistaking one person's profile for another. Musk apparently has a hate-on for Signal too, so he'll probably throw out bad info on that, spin some excuse to try to get the staffers out of it, then push them all to Telegram(where everything is logged on the Telegram servers anyways for group chats - but look! Stickers!).
How is it not clearly human error, whether error in judgment or careless typing?

I have been feeling really confident that 1) the guy named in the article added the journalist to the system because he wanted to be able to use him for publicity or spin and 2) when assembling the list for this event someone just mistook him for someone else.

Or is Elon investigating how the didm't know better?
 
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Dekafox

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How is it not clearly human error, whether error in judgment or careless typing?
Theoretically, it is possible that someone phished Waltz, linked their device to his Signal account, then used that to join JG to the conversation (or at least his contact list). Of course, that's even worse(as said unknown also had all of Waltz's Signal data then), so if that were the case I wouldn't expect them to admit to it either. Is it likely? Simply not bothering to properly check the participants is more likely, but it is indeed a possibility. Especially since if someone DID compromise his Signal account they just burned their access, but who knows what else such a person may have gotten already - if that had happened of course.

To be clear, again, it's most likely a simple screwup, but Russia(and others) have been targeting Signal accounts for a while, and this chaos certainly has Putin reaching for the popcorn.
 


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