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My mouth dropped open at the end of “Dot & Bubble.” Damn, what a good ending. It built logically on things established throughout the episode, and delivered a nice gut punch.

Perhaps some people don’t deserve to be saved, but the Doctor will not stop trying.

This is the second consecutive episode where I had no idea what was going to happen next. Well done.
 

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I'm not sure it's really a good idea to follow up a Companion only episode with a Doctor Light episode. Ncuti is starting to feel like the guest star of his own show.
 
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Agreed. Three more episodes left in this season. I would hope they should be Doctor-heavy.

Based on the writers for those episodes, my guess is next week’s episode does not lead directly into the two-part season finale, the same way RTD finished Tennant’s first two seasons.
 

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Strangely the reactions to this episode seem to be more interesting than the episode itself. Apparently a lot of people were taken off guard by the ending with everyone rejecting the Doctor because he was black but it seemed pretty obvious from the get go and only more throughout the episode?

Like pretty much from the start we see that everyone on the bubble is white. its just a sea of white faces. Yes these are her friends and it does happen that most peoples friend groups tend to largely be of the same ethnicity as themselves but its also the BBC and they wouldn't have forgotten to make sure to diversify the characters we see. It was clear from the start they were signaling she was a bad person. She almost immediately dismisses the Doctor but listens to the pretty blonde white lady patiently despite being really frustrated with her. She seems shocked that the two of them are in the same room, and it takes her a while to even realize its the same black man that was talking to her before, she even says "I thought you just looked similar but your him aren't you"

Like damn short of her dropping and N-bomb I'm not sure how much more blatent it could have been she was racist, along with her friends who were shocked and agast when a black man barged into their call and inserted himself in a place of priority.

I'm honestly surprised that the Doctor didn't have a bigger reaction to it in the end. I mean it wasn't small but this would probably be the first time hes ever faced discrimination in his life. Well remembered life (thanks Chibnall /s)
 
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I posted that in the celebrity Deaths thread, as I think that he should be considered so.

He did a great job, and I loved that he kept coming back to the show in his later years. I remember spotting him in the Adventure in Space and Time movie as the security guard, and went nuts to see him at the companion anonymous meeting last season as Ian.
 
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Okay this is the episode that offically makes me like Ncuti as the Doctor. Its the first episode where he fully and completely feels like the Doctor.
 

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So actual thoughts about the episode.

I dunno. I liked it. I feel like Rogue is going to turn out to actually be another one of the pantheon playing games. I mean comon. Dr even pointed out how he took his name from DnD and literally when we are introduced to him "Bad Guy" is playing in the background.

The whole episode doesn't really hold up to scrutiny. I mean that could just be because its doctor who sure but like.. You got a race of aliens (who the doctor didn't even think were real before this) whos big plan is to LARP the world to death, you got a guy whos named himself after a DnD Class, you got anachronisms, you got people being agast at two men dancing and being romantic but also apparently.... I mean I know it just came up last episode about future racists but 1813 was not a great time for black folk. I would think most the party would have been racist towards him... if it was real. Was it real? Or was it another game, this one lasting more than a single episode. I dunno.
 
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Without going into spoilers for the first of the season finale two-parter—the episode this big bad first appeared in is on Tubi. (And Tubi has the benefit of being free.)

I liked the reveal; I liked the team Unit has assembled (especially the kid!); and I’m curious how this is going to be resolved.
 
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(Btw, I think TUBI is geoblocked in Japan)
 
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I feel like this one is kinda on the doctor really. Maestro even warned him there was something fucky with ruby and the time of her birth and then he goes muckin about prodding and poking at it anyways and is surprised when the person Maestro told them was there was there.
 
Shadewing

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Monique said:
I feel like this one is kinda on the doctor really. Maestro even warned him there was something fucky with ruby and the time of her birth and then he goes muckin about prodding and poking at it anyways and is surprised when the person Maestro told them was there was there.
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Since when does the Doctor just let a mystery be?
 
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So after thinking on this episode some:

I feel like this was written for a normal 13 ep season like RTD usually does, but then had to scrap 5 episodes when he learned of streaming restrictions (backed up by two Susan Twist looks we never seen and have no role otherwise) so there is no build up what so ever. So much of this episode feels like its a sequel to Devil's Chord that it makes Devil Chord feel like it aired out of order with it feeling like Devil Chord should have been episode 4 instead which would space out the Gods a bit better. Since otherwise there's SO LONG with nothing that connects to the reveal. Its just bad overall pacing imo. Yeah yeah, the Random Snow, but even that kinda gets dropped in the second half of the season for the most part.

That said, I think the episode itself and the reveal is mostly well done. Though it feel strange that the Doctor just seems to randomly decide to visit UNIT now about this, again part of that feeling of having missing episodes. But everything in the episode itself I enjoyed. I liked how he had hopes that Susan Triad was his Susan, since there was the dangling TARDIS connection, and the regeneration angel for why she looks different. He's encountered enough ways that a Gallifrayian could hide that it feels believable. I liked that there TARDIS bit was kinda a fakeout, and Kinda Not. I still have a lot of questions, but as its a two parter I can't hold those against this episode yet.
 
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I just feel after the whole red herring with Susan possibly being his granddaughter they they still need to deliver on that. Mrs. Flood could be her, but last we saw her she seemed ... nefarious. And what about the Master's ring?
 
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Just occurred to me,how come the Doctor never talks about his own child./children? no pride? too painful? doing time for baaaaaaaaaaaad behavior? dun dun duuuuuun. (next season)
 
Shadewing

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Glitch said:
Just occurred to me,how come the Doctor never talks about his own child./children? no pride? too painful? doing time for baaaaaaaaaaaad behavior? dun dun duuuuuun. (next season)
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They kinda address this in this episode. "Life of a Time Traveller, I know my Grandduaghter before I know my own Kids"
 
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