Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread
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Since she actually WAS his attorney, he is in fact still covered by attorney client privilege.
But it does open up a whole new line of questioning in court: specifically a path that ends in a perjury charge, and completely prevent the use of trumps planned "defense of council" plan.
Follow-up question: Is she required to uphold attorney-client privilege?
Follow up answer: Not really. She could if wanted to (provided it was found that that privilege wasn't used in the commission of a criminal act.) or she could drop it voluntarily. Considering the fact that she flipped like the circus clown she is: I doubt attorney client privilege will be guiding her ethos any.
She is required to uphold attorney-client privilege even if her client pretends that privilege never existed.
More relevantly (putting her ethics and morality aside) prosecutors cannot profit from a breach of privilege by the attorney.
Even if she says, "I don't care if I lose my license to practice law, here's everything he told me in confidence", statements like that could not be used against Trump.
Trump's could potentially waive that privilege, but a court would certainly use a strict standard for concluding that. "She's not my lawyer" isn't enough -- he would have to actively post "...and even if she were my lawyer, I hereby waive any privilege from that non-existent relationship" for a judge to even consider it.
More relevantly (putting her ethics and morality aside) prosecutors cannot profit from a breach of privilege by the attorney.
Even if she says, "I don't care if I lose my license to practice law, here's everything he told me in confidence", statements like that could not be used against Trump.
Trump's could potentially waive that privilege, but a court would certainly use a strict standard for concluding that. "She's not my lawyer" isn't enough -- he would have to actively post "...and even if she were my lawyer, I hereby waive any privilege from that non-existent relationship" for a judge to even consider it.
Jenna Ellis becomes latest Trump lawyer to plead guilty over efforts to overturn Georgia's election
Jenna Ellis pleaded guilty on Tuesday to a felony charge over efforts to overturn Donald Trump’s 2020 election loss in Georgia.
apnews.com
Looks like she's getting similar deals to what Powell and Chesebro got. Anyone else who's planning to flip on Trump in this case better do so soon, because this is as good as the deals are going to get, and they're going to get worse the later they flip.
But it gets funnier later:
"Yo! I want a sweet deal to spill on trump's conspiracy!"
*Judge gives the DA the side-eye*
"Ahem. No. See you in court."
"Yo! I want a sweet deal to spill on trump's conspiracy!"
*Judge gives the DA the side-eye*
"Ahem. No. See you in court."
At that point they'll start saving it for tell-all books for a quick cash grab.
They were doing that anyway.
Rats escaping a sinking ship that's also a burning wreck
Donald Trump, who still hasn't internalized the problem with having one value for this loan applications and a different one for his taxes, came out to talk to the press during a break today and said the value of his properties was much more than what the financial statements said, not less. Which, if true, probably deepens his legal jeopardy.
That would mean he understands that "the right to remain silent" means "shut up". Dude literally cannot not talk. Honestly it seems like he lacks object permanence and if he deliberately stop talking he thinks he'll disappear.
While we're waiting on the legal slog, someone should get him tested for dementia.
Besides, he's like half a year from going to jail. Plenty of free mental health care in jail.
I'll take anything that keeps him out of office at this point. I want to have faith in the legal system locking him up before then, but at no time in my lifetime has the legal system shown itself effective at dealing with famous white guys.
Ex-Chief of Staff Mark Meadows granted immunity, tells special counsel he warned Trump about 2020 claims: Sources
Ex-Trump Chief of Staff Mark Meadows has spoken with Jack Smith's team several times this year, and Smith granted Meadows immunity to testify under oath, sources say.
abcnews.go.com
Another domino tips over.
Trump gag order back in effect in federal election interference case
U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan's ruling Sunday reinstates the order to limit Trump's comments about witnesses or disparagement of prosecutors while his team appeals.
www.nbcnews.com
What's the over/under on how quickly Trump violates this one?