Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

[Axaday]

Can 45 be changed to 47 on the title?

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/11/politics/lee-zeldin-epa-administrator/index.html

The guy Trump picked to run the EPA thinks AI somehow figures into his role. Also he thinks America regaining Energy Dominance (whatever that means. We are currently producing the most oil we ever have, more than any other country, more than any other country ever has) and revitalizing the auto industry are part of his role. It's weird.

 

[Paladin]

Welcome to the rest of our lives...

'Hail Hitler and hail Trump': People wave Nazi flags outside Jewish play in Michigan

President-elect Donald Trump's reelection was credited for emboldening a group of people waving Nazi flags in Michigan over the weekend.WLNS reported that the flags were seen in two cities, including at a Jewish play.According to the report, "many people" were seen displaying flags with...

www.rawstory.com

 

[Axaday]

It's just weird because where you'd think they'd be like "The Left calls us Nazis because they are out of ideas", some of them just go "Yeah, what of it?"

 

[KidTDragon]

I gotta get out of this country. I can't do 4+ more years of this.

 

[Axaday]

You had just best not task an AI will figuring out how to keep the water and air clean. Have you STILL not seen the Terminator?

 

[wonko the sane?]

I'd take skynet over trump. At least skynet wouldn't lie to us.

 

[Deathy G1]

Can we please change the name of this thread to something more respectful, regardless of the content inside? Otherwise, in the interest of fairness, the Democratic Party thread should also be renamed something snarky and critical.

 

[Pale Rider]

The Dems might be miserable, out-of-touch failures, but at least they're not traitors. How's that for fairness?

 

[Dekafox]

I'm all for something snarky and critical for the Dem thread too. I'd suggest "At least we're not the other guy" but that might be too long. Or maybe "Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory"?

 

[Xaaron]

"America's Plan B" Party?

 

[wonko the sane?]

Glad you all said something, cause I was gonna be mean to him.

 

[Pale Rider]

 

[Ungnome]

Can we please change the name of this thread to something more respectful, regardless of the content inside? Otherwise, in the interest of fairness, the Democratic Party thread should also be renamed something snarky and critical.

Trump has done nothing to deserve respect, IMHO. He stirs up fear and hatred, treats women as sex objects and only tells the truth twice a day.(Maybe this was posted in the wrong thread, though)

 

[Deathy G1]

All I’m asking for is a bit of fairness in thread titles. It makes this place less welcoming for someone who doesn’t share a certain point of view. I try to treat all sides with respect. All opinions are welcome in my book and healthy debate is a good thing. I don’t think this name calling and “grab the pitchforks” attitude does anyone any good.

I’d say it never used to be like this, but maybe I just didn’t notice it when my politics leaned left. Who knows for sure? All I know is that I’m not someone who would treat anyone’s personal or political philosophy that way, whether they agree with me or not, and whether my side is in power or not.

I don’t think a little decorum is too much to ask.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

Would "Convicted felon, sexual assaulter, and fraudster watch" be more respectful? He may not fit the legal definition of treason (as far as we know, anyway; at the least, he hasn't been formally tried), but all of those are true.

 

[Deathy G1]

To whomever changed the title: thank you. Also good vocab word of the day!

Redivivus: come back to life; reborn.

Would "Convicted felon, sexual assaulter, and fraudster watch" be more respectful? He may not fit the legal definition of treason (as far as we know, anyway; at the least, he hasn't been formally tried), but all of those are true.

I can't argue with you on the technicality. Legally, those are true based on the case awaiting sentencing. I'd prefer thread titles in this forum remain neutral though. I think it fosters more participation on all sides.

 

[Pale Rider]

FB friend:

One bright spot in the gloom following the election was the guy on Reddit who was shocked that after months of his wife saying she would divorce him over his rabid Trump support, she actually served him with divorce papers.

He literally admitted that she'd been warning him about this for months, but he still claimed that this "came out of nowhere", because he didn't take her threats seriously.

All those people who hate DEI suddenly become super-supportive of it when the subject is white-supremacists who want to speak at top universities.

On that subject, they suddenly spout lines about the importance of DIVERSITY of opinions and the dangers of not INCLUDING everyone.

Call me crazy, but maybe "diversity of opinion" should not be used to justify the promotion of a guy who wants to end diversity.

Yes, Trump supporters were lied to, but they also consciously chose the lie.

On some level, they know it might be a lie. When people warn others not to look at any other media because nothing can be trusted outside the bubble, that's a sign of weakness. When people think that all news from outside the bubble (even from countries thousands of miles away) is part of some sort of evil cabal against your one truth, that's a sign of weakness. They're afraid to read news from outside the bubble.

They know on some level that it might be a lie, and they don't care. They choose the lie, because it makes them happy.

Stop condescendingly thinking that they were just duped. They chose this.

 

[M. Virion]

Trump doesn't deserve respect what a ridiculous argument. I don't want more participation from MAGAts.

As a trans person my life is actively in danger from this upcoming administration. Donald Trump is a fascist, a traitor and a worthless sack of holes and fecal matter.

 

[Anonymous X]

Trump doesn't deserve respect what a ridiculous argument. I don't want more participation from MAGAts.

As a trans person my life is actively in danger from this upcoming administration.

I'm a cis-gender English guy sitting halfway around the world from most users here, and I don't want them here either. I absolutely do not want people of any minority group to feel threatened or unsafe while using this forum.

 

[Pocket]

I have made my position clear in the past, but just to reiterate: Every single person who participated in putting Trump into power in 2016 or 2024 has committed what I consider to be a capital crime and, in a just universe, would be treated accordingly.