Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

CoffeeHorse

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I genuinely believed that it’d take six months to several years for the Trump admin to get this nakedly authoritarian, and I consider myself a pessimist.

In fairness, even Trump didn't know he'd be doing this. He was planning on "normal" deportation flights (though with military planes) like what he feuded with Colombia about. That whole episode feels like years ago already, doesn't it?

This whole scheme was not on anybody's radar. Even while Bukele was becoming a right wing media darling, Trump seemingly wasn't buying it. Throughout the campaign he accused El Salvador of reducing their crime by sending all their criminals here. It was only after the election that Bukele launched himself into Trump's orbit and offered the use of his dungeon. And even then it wasn't obvious he was volunteering to be the excuse as to why the administration cannot comply with court orders.
 

Pocket

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Trump is the kind of person who acts on impulse and then tends to double down on it when confronted. I say "tends to" because clearly this didn't hold true with the tariffs. And as usual I think the key to understanding his behavior is to picture him as a literal five-year-old child. Whatever happened behind closed doors to make him back down on the tariffs was like that kid being talked down from a bad idea by a peer, whereas a judge telling him you may not do this thing is more like getting reprimanded by a parent.
 

Dekafox

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Unpaywalled actual WSJ article for your perusal: https://archive.is/NCKRc

This part also sounds totally normal:
Navarro has proven a singular force in Trump’s orbit—a longtime adviser who has channeled Trump’s pro-tariff instincts and often annoyed his colleagues. He served a prison sentence last year but returned as a trade adviser when Trump won, and Trump has told others that Navarro went to prison for him, The Wall Street Journal has reported.
 

Axaday

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I expect bad policy, lies, corruption, theft. But leaking military operations to impress your wife, I just don't.
 

The Mighty Mollusk

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It's not that they don't take it seriously. It's that they just don't care. Nobody's made a serious effort to actually stop anything, so they consider themselves above the law. They simply don't need to hide it because there's been no consequences anyway.
 

Axaday

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This isn't actually a new one. This is ANOTHER thread that he shared details of the same operation at the same time. And worse than the first because in the first having someone INTENTIONALLY on the list was that other guy's fault, so while there was an unwarranted risk of a hacker getting in, he at least believed he was sending it to people with clearance. Now we know he ALSO sent stuff to his wife.
 

The Mighty Mollusk

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