Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

[Ungnome]

Anything marked confidential or top secret is by default government property and Trump has no right to have it back. He's just trying to delay any indictments until after the election so that a republican controlled house can throw a wrench into the works. Just another reason to do everything we can to KEEP the house blue.

 

[wonko the sane?]

It'll probably get tossed on appeal, it's a straight up delaying tactic. They need to find someone who has high enough security clearance to view everything AND won't be accused (even though its doesn't matter who it is, they will be accused.) of being biased against trump.

Frankly, I like the idea of letting trump recommend someone, giving them the security clearance needed to peruse all this stuff: then killing them when it's over. "I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you...".

 

[Pocket]

The Constitution guarantees a right to a speedy trial. Shame we can't find a judge who'll interpret that as saying it should be guaranteed even when the defendant is the one trying to prevent it.

 

[Paladin]

WaPo: Material on foreign nation’s nuclear capabilities seized at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago

Who could have predicted this I wonder? Everyone! Gifted (free) and well worth the read: Material on foreign nation’s nuclear capabilities seized at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Some seized documents were so closely held, only the president, a Cabinet-level or...

www.dailykos.com

we gave the Rosenbergs the chair for less than this...

 

[Pocket]

This is past the point where a swift trial, conviction, and execution is prudent. This is the kind of scenario where you'd want to lock him up and interrogate him for years about what other dark secrets he might be keeping.

I only regret that we've discovered that torture is ineffective at getting information out of people, because he sure as hell deserves no less.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

It's not just him we need interrogated. He's a rambling jackass who would happily waste the investigators' time for years on end until his health finally fails and still not get anywhere within a forty-mile radius of useful information.

We need everyone around him interrogated.

 

[wonko the sane?]

On top of all that: you need everyone who enabled him into a position of power arrested and barred from government. They all need to be investigated to ensure they haven't compromised national security.

Functionally, you need to completely stamp out the ideology that originated this mess... but doing that is also completely counter to a free and open democratic system.

 

[Ironbite4]

So hang the entire Republican Party?

 

[wonko the sane?]

Which is why I said it was also completely counter to a free and democratic system. It also sets a, frankly, horrible precedent for the next batch of monsters that'll pop up, cause you know hitler wanna-be 3.0 will straight up take advantage of it.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

Whatever happens needs to be entirely by the book. The problem is that the Republicans have spent decades rewriting the book.

 

[Pocket]

And also the book was poorly written to begin with. Which is how they've been able to do that and get away with it.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

'No way to not step into a mess': Dozens of former Trump lawyers facing possibility of ruined careers

According to a report from the New York Times, the quip that "MAGA" (Make America Great Again) also means "making attorneys get attorneys" is particularly apt as dozens of lawyers who rushed to defend Donald Trump now find themselves facing disbarment, investigations, subpoenas and possible...

www.rawstory.com

The bottom of the barrel is being cut out.

 

[Pocket]

Relevant quote:

"Vigorously defending the client — even one known for unscrupulous behavior or accused of an egregious crime — is part of a lawyer’s basic job description. But attorneys are bound by a code of professional conduct that forbids them from crossing certain lines, including knowingly making false claims, filing frivolous lawsuits or motions, and doing anything to further a crime."

It kinda sounds like Trump refuses to accept legal counsel from anyone who won't agree to do actual crimes on his behalf. Thaaaaat explains why nobody wants to represent him anymore.

 

[Pale Rider]

I wonder how many times this conversation has played out between Trump and his prospective legal teams...

 

[KidTDragon]

It kinda sounds like Trump refuses to accept legal counsel from anyone who won't agree to do actual crimes on his behalf. Thaaaaat explains why nobody wants to represent him anymore.

That, and the fact that he never pays them.

 

[Wheelimus]

All Donald Trump needs is for Saul Goodman to be a real lawyer and represent him. heh

 

[wonko the sane?]

Goodman wouldn't be stupid enough to take it. Even he won't stand for not getting paid.

 

[Wheelimus]

That's why Trump would have to pay up front, in cash, in duffel bags, to get Goodman to take him on as a client. Then he'll tamper with the evidence and get Judge Judy appointed Special Master.

 

[Tuxedo Prime]

All Donald Trump needs is for Saul Goodman to be a real lawyer and represent him. heh

If dollars were doughnuts, I'd bet two eclairs that Bob Odenkirk has received a call or two from a very confused agent.

 

[Wheelimus]

"I know you aren't one but he really wants a CRIMINAL attorney and won't take no for an answer."