Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

[The Mighty Mollusk]

If only all of these lawsuits actually went anywhere.

 

[wonko the sane?]

I keep waiting for his entire family to flee to Canada.

Wouldn't help him. Canada has transparent extradition with the US, and boy are there some warrants coming for him.

 

[abates]

It's very likely that his announcement on Tuesday is going to be a 2024 run at the Presidency just to avoid all these law suits.

 

[Paladin]

AND swindle even more money out of his fanbase. Can't forget that...

 

[DefaultOption]

It's very likely that his announcement on Tuesday is going to be a 2024 run at the Presidency just to avoid all these law suits.

Well, he very probably thinks that's how it will work, but it isn't. You have to actually be President to fall under that 'can't prosecute a sitting President' thing*.

(*And even that doctrine has never faced a serious legal challenge. Considering that it only exists in the form of a memo from the WH Office of Legal Council from the Nixon administration, there's nothing that says it would survive a well-founded case against it [of course the current right-wing hack SCOTUS would be happy to apply their double standards to it, sound legal arguments notwithstanding])

 

[Wheelimus]

Latest on the Maralago documents case - Justice Department thinks it was ego not money that motivated Trump.

Investigators Now Think Trump Took Classified Documents For Ego, Not Money

Witnesses have suggested to the FBI that Trump just didn’t want to “give up what he believed was his property,” The Washington Post reported.

www.huffpost.com

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

More details on how he's been ******* around, but when do we get to the part where he finds out?

 

[Wheelimus]

Closer than ever before, longer than any of us want. Probably no charges until the stupid assed Special Master finishes their work. Probably several months until charges get filed. Hope it's sooner.

 

[NovaSaber]

Gen. John Kelly confirms Trump wanted IRS to audit his foes or have the DOJ investigate them

The New York Times is confirming that Gen. John Kelly confirmed that former President Donald Trump wanted the IRS to audit his foes. "While in office, President Donald J. Trump repeatedly told John F. Kelly, his second White House chief of staff, that he wanted a number of his perceived...

www.rawstory.com

"Trump’s demands were part of a broader pattern of him trying to use the Justice Department and his authority as president against people who had been critical of him, including seeking to revoke the security clearances of former top intelligence officials," the report said.

Trump had frequently complained about people like John Brennan, who he said shouldn't have any kind of security clearance while giving interviews on cable. Trump also wanted to go after Andrew McCabe, who Trump decided he hated because McCabe's wife was running for a local office in Virginia and was a Hillary Clinton supporter. Trump also tried to go after former FBI Director James Comey, who Trump raged about frequently on Twitter. Both McCabe and Comey experienced incredibly invasive audits in 2019, after Kelly was gone.

“The U.S. government, whether it’s the I.R.S. or the Justice Department, should never be weaponized or used to retaliate, and certainly not because someone criticizes you in the press or is your political opponent,” Kelly said when asked about it by the Times. “The average federal employee or F.B.I. agent or I.R.S. agent goes to work and executes the laws and regulations and shouldn’t be put in this position.”

 

[abates]

A little under 20 minutes until Trump does his announcement!

 

[abates]

As expected, he's announced he's running for president. Though not before a 20 minute rambling speech about how his presidency was a golden age and everything under Joe Biden has been terrible.

 

[Rhinox]

This is a pathetic attempt to stave off prosecution and the massive amounts of lawsuits he's facing. Given his age and health, this feels like Trump is trying to run out the clock on himself. Die in office a Caesar as opposed to an outcast living in exile in his private purgatory of Mar A Largo.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

Let's not forget the best part.

Fox News and CNN cut off ‘low energy’ Trump mid-speech as he announces 2024 bid

‘This is one of the most low-energy, uninspiring speeches I’ve ever heard from Trump’ says former Trump press aide

www.independent.co.uk

Fox and CNN dropped coverage mid-speech because he was so bad at it. MSNBC didn't even bother.

Also, I love this line from the article:

Dan Pfeifer, a former senior adviser to Barack Obama, tweeted: “This speech is Trump’s message delivered with Jeb Bush’s energy and Ted Cruz’s charisma.”

 

[Rhinox]

Now that's a burn!

 

[Ironbite4]

.......BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Ironbite-that's great.

 

[Pocket]

Unfortunately that just means they've already moved on to the "replace him with someone just as evil but actually competent" phase of the long-term plan.

 

[Paladin]

and New York makes it clear they're fed up with him too.

NY Post taunts Trump’s presidential bid with ‘Florida man makes announcement’ teaser at the very bottom of the front page

The brief news item about former President Donald Trump's new White House bid was buried on page 26, with no photo.

www.marketwatch.com

 

[Pale Rider]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/15/politics/facebook-fact-check-donald-trump

 

[Ungnome]

Why in the world are campaign speeches exempt from fact checking..... Politicians should be fact checked harder than pretty much anyone else.

 

[wonko the sane?]

Cause fact checked politicians are unemployed politicians, and unemployed politicians don't push massive tax cuts for corporations.