ooooohhhh, that last one is just... so delicious and tempting.
Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread
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That headline is so small. You don't get 34 charges from an improper hush money payment. There was a lot of talk about that because they were getting witnesses about it, but 34 charges is going to be a huge deal.
Trump Indicted Over $130,000 Hush Money Payment To Stormy Daniels
His then-lawyer, Michael Cohen, said he paid the porn star for her silence about an affair she says she had with Trump prior to the 2016 election.www.huffpost.com
Enjoy your upcoming perp walk Trump.
And every Republican wants to talk about the Democrat DA, because no one really wants to say a jury was bad.
Maybe simpler than that. The guy has a secret service detail always with him...
Trials take a long time. This guy is going to be having to appear in court when the other guys are doing rallies and he may go to prison right before Super Tuesday. This is going to be a very hard campaign for him now.
Give it time, they'll be defaming and doxxing the jury before long. Once trump ends up under oath, it literally can only end 1 way: jail time. He either admits he was lying and cops to the charges as presented, or he perjures himself. Trump will take the choice that drags the proceedings out as long as possible.
Wouldn't DeSantis be charged with obstruction or aiding and abetting if he tries to stop Trump's arrest?
Nope, because this is a state matter and not a federal matter. The states can choose to not allow extradition in much the same way nations can: if they feel the district will not properly follow the law or honour the requirement for a fair and impartial trial.
So not obstruction until after the subsequent investigation into the refusal to allow extradition shows that it was entirely biased in favour of trump, but by then: no one will care.
So not obstruction until after the subsequent investigation into the refusal to allow extradition shows that it was entirely biased in favour of trump, but by then: no one will care.
He didn't say he would stop it. He just said they wouldn't arrest and extradite him. I am sure Trump is going to go in on his own and make a press event of it that will make him look as sophisticated as you can look when being indicted.
DeSantis is the best of many examples of "I want him to go down hard, but I don't want to have anything to do with it"
If Florida arrested him and refused to turn him over there could be a lot of legal wrangling around and such, but if they just ignore it I think there is no trouble for Florida. I don't think the State of Florida has to arrest someone because New York has a warrant for them.
No, but they can also forbid agents from new york to enact the warrant.
He didn't say he was going to do that, though. Trump is going to go surrender anyway. But remember, Ron DeSantis wants this. He just doesn't want any blame for it.
Trump said he was going to surrender. Since when has trump ever kept his word? Lots of broken contracts with that guy, and he lies about what he said all the ******* time.
If it doesn't benefit him directly, immediately and immensely, he won't do it: and this will end with jail time. Period. So he won't surrender.
Desantis is an outright fascist and setting the precedent of red states refusing to comply "with witch hunts" helps him and other republicans in the long run.
If it doesn't benefit him directly, immediately and immensely, he won't do it: and this will end with jail time. Period. So he won't surrender.
Desantis is an outright fascist and setting the precedent of red states refusing to comply "with witch hunts" helps him and other republicans in the long run.
Trump will surrender because he doesn't want to get handcuffed and stuck in a police car. He doesn't want to look weak. He didn't want to be in this situation at all, but now that he is in it his very best course is to show up at the court house or wherever, make a speech to gathered reporters about how unfair it is and then go in. It makes him look like he is condescending to the demands of petty players.
Meanwhile he'll have his underlings running the "donations for legal support" grift as hard as they can.
That's too bad. I was really looking forward to the arresting officer giving Trump the ol'"watch your head" as he got loaded into the car.
Even if they had to send folks to arrest him: unless he resisted arrest enough to piss off the people putting him in handcuffs that wouldn't have happened.
And frankly; don't discount it yet. Desantis has already stated they will not honour extradition, so if trump feels it's in his own best interest to simply stay home, he will. Considering how the requirements of the indictment stated trump was to surrender TODAY, and how many republicans in general have gotten away with outright ignoring government demands; there's a very real chance he just keeps telling the cops "I'll be in tomorrow".
My god, the people willing to fight for this fat sack of lying, orange cat turds. It's literally painful to think there could be a very actual second american civil war... over trump.
It's what he deserves, won't be what he gets.
Most of them aren't fighting for Trump so much as they're fighting against anyone who opposes the Republican party. He's a worthless tub of orange jive, but he's their tub of jive.
I think there are very few Republican stars who are unhappy about this. There are several really great solutions to this equation* where you please Trump's fanbase, don't anger Trump, but don't actually create any barrier to Trump getting destroyed or get any more Trumpiness on you. You object to how Democrats shouldn't do this and shouldn't get away with it, but you don't say America is lost without Donald. You don't talk about whether he is guilty, just about the motives of the people driving it and how unprecedented and inappropriate it is. If you are reasonably careful, you can cover ALL the bases!
*Wolf Blitzer asked Mike Pence about it last night and poor, sweet Mike Pence said he's been travelling all over this nation thinking about his future (who know WHAT that could be. Probably a rock band, because I for one just cannot see how the guy who helped Trump get elected and THEN didn't "come through for him" on Jan 6 has ANY constituency) and it turns out that America just doesn't care about this. They care about their suffering from Biden's failed policies. This is just outrageous politics gone wrong. See? I did not say Trump is getting his reckoning, I did not leave him dangling in the wind, I didn't comment on his guilt or innocence or pay him any compliment, but I stood up for him when the chips are down. Now let's see if I can get this sucker in gear and ride it into the White House. He didn't say ANYTHING about Trump.
*Wolf Blitzer asked Mike Pence about it last night and poor, sweet Mike Pence said he's been travelling all over this nation thinking about his future (who know WHAT that could be. Probably a rock band, because I for one just cannot see how the guy who helped Trump get elected and THEN didn't "come through for him" on Jan 6 has ANY constituency) and it turns out that America just doesn't care about this. They care about their suffering from Biden's failed policies. This is just outrageous politics gone wrong. See? I did not say Trump is getting his reckoning, I did not leave him dangling in the wind, I didn't comment on his guilt or innocence or pay him any compliment, but I stood up for him when the chips are down. Now let's see if I can get this sucker in gear and ride it into the White House. He didn't say ANYTHING about Trump.
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