Traitor Watch - The 45 & 47 Thread

[G.B.Blackrock]

At this point, I refuse to get hyped over anything less than actually throwing him behind bars. We get a new "smoking gun" at least once a week and he's still free.

I think I may have said before, as much as I'd love him to actually be arrested for his crimes, I see little to no chance of that happening. I'll be happy if he's somehow barred from ever holding political office again.

NEITHER scenario stops Trump from actively riling up his base, but nothing short of death will do that, so there's nothing to do but wait....

 

[Pocket]

No, his base won't let his death stop them, and if anything it'll just cement his status as a messianic figure. Even if his death was entirely from messianic causes. After all, that's the difference between a mere cult and a religion, whether the founder is still alive.

 

[Pale Rider]

A not-insignificant portion of his base thinks JFK Jr. is still alive and Joe Biden is dead. The guy in the White House is apparently a clone. Just sayin'.

 

[Ungnome]

Which reminds me 'All Hail Clone Biden, may your genetic code endure for millennia.'

 

[G.B.Blackrock]

No, his base won't let his death stop them, and if anything it'll just cement his status as a messianic figure. Even if his death was entirely from messianic causes. After all, that's the difference between a mere cult and a religion, whether the founder is still alive.

I did not say that MAGA would die without Trump, but HE won't be riling them up anyone once he's dead.

They'll be doing that all on their own.

 

[wonko the sane?]

Yeah, between the literally incessant propaganda, and the conspiracy theories: they don't need a messiah. They'll just make jive up, which will inspire more violence and more conspiracies. I think we're near a breaking point though, you can only wind up a spring for so long before it snaps.

That's not a good thing. Snapping is bad.

 

[abates]

As we already saw with Epstein, if Trump dies, they'll just assume someone in the deep state did it. Probably the Clintons. That will result in any number of nutbars going out to get revenge in whatever way they think is appropriate.

 

[Bainreese]

Ugh. You all killed the vibe. LoL. You aren’t wrong though.

 

[NovaSaber]

Yikes. Again.

Trump and Allies Forge Plans to Increase Presidential Power in 2025

Donald Trump and his allies are planning a sweeping expansion of presidential power over the machinery of government if voters return him to the White House in 2025, reshaping the structure of the executive branch to concentrate far greater authority directly in his hands. Their plans to...

news.yahoo.com

 

[Ungnome]

He's a wannabe fascist dictator, isn't that what they all try and do to secure power? The scary part is his followers would cheer such a move on despite the fact that once he pulls something like that off, they won't be any safer from his wrath than anyone else.

 

[wonko the sane?]

His followers have been programmed to believe that so long as the "insert target community here" are losing, they're winning. Even if it affects them, hurts them, so long as the other guy is suffering they are winning.

The most basic tribal mentality. Literally the monkeys from the monolith scene in 2001: a space odyssey.

 

[Pocket]

As we already saw with Epstein, if Trump dies, they'll just assume someone in the deep state did it. Probably the Clintons. That will result in any number of nutbars going out to get revenge in whatever way they think is appropriate.

Remember how Iraq didn't turn into a quagmire until after Hussein had been captured and executed and suddenly there were all these leaderless gangs of insurgents making it impossible to drive ten feet without getting blown up?

Yeah, maybe it's better if we let them start a civil war while they still have the capacity to lose.

 

[Ironbite4]

Best place for this I guess as the Orange Piss Pot did order these people to do this.

Michigan Charges 16 in False Elector Scheme to Overturn Trump’s 2020 Loss

Among those facing felony charges was Meshawn Maddock, a Trump ally and a former co-chair of the Michigan Republican Party.

www.nytimes.com

Ironbite-man....hope they get someone just as good in Michigan after this set is termed out.

 

[KidTDragon]

Judge sets a trial date for next May in Trump's classified documents case in Florida

A federal judge in Florida has set a trial date for next May for former President Donald Trump in a case charging him with illegally retaining hundreds of classified documents.

apnews.com

Smack dab in the middle of the presidential election season.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

Betcha he's already throwing a tantrum about it on his platform.

 

[wonko the sane?]

The question going around is "why so long?" when her FIRST trial date was the end of august.

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

Trump and his cronies pushed for a later date. They originally wanted to push it until after the election was over entirely. At which point, if he wins, he'll try to pardon himself.

Just watch. When that date rolls around, they'll ask for another delay because he'll be so busy on the campaign trail and can't possibly make it to court. It's the same scheme, just with more steps.

 

[wonko the sane?]

I recognize that she only put it in the august date so trump could object and look at least viable in the objection. I'm wondering why no one is calling her out for overruling her own date?

 

[The Mighty Mollusk]

I'm still wondering why nobody pushed for her to be removed from the trial entirely, considering who appointed her and her proven biases in previous cases involving him.

The US justice system is a bad joke.

 

[Spin-Out]

I think what's even more concerning is that Florida "randomly" assigned it to a deep red district. That part of the state is ******* infested with MAGA white trash and evangelicals.