...No? They didn't. It's colored (and sculpted) based on Marvel Prima.They coloured "The Arisen's" Prime Master like the Last Autobot in the Optimus Primal Prime Throne set.
...No? They didn't. It's colored (and sculpted) based on Marvel Prima.They coloured "The Arisen's" Prime Master like the Last Autobot in the Optimus Primal Prime Throne set.
No wonder Megatronus was pissed.Well that's annoying. There already IS a Prima in the set. No hogging the spots, Prima!
Ok that's my bad because the image in my head of the Last Autobot is that first pic! I must have gotten the Last Autobot and Marvel Prima mixed up....No? They didn't. It's colored (and sculpted) based on Marvel Prima.
Funny you should say that.Also if Furman did it, it likely would have been confined to IDW.
For reference:Ok that's my bad because the image in my head of the Last Autobot is that first pic! I must have gotten the Last Autobot and Marvel Prima mixed up.
The Ultimate Warrior? Oh dear.
Huh. As I was reading the last page and catching up here, I began to think to myself:
Bumblebee: Wow, how'd you know all that stuff Optimus?Of course, these days, there would probably be some insistence of Optimus and Bumblebee being there. If that's the case, bookend the episodes like in G1 Season 5 with Optimus telling Bumblebee stories of the Thirteen or something. Boom, done.
I mean, it's not like Optimus could have been the Arisen at the moment. He was a-dead.You know, going by the original movie saying that Hot Rod was the one destined to bear the Matrix, along with the modern lore of the Matrix's true bearer being the second coming of the Thirteenth Prime, that would kind of make Rodimus the Arisen instead of Optimus.
Heh, but no modern fiction has actually ever played around with this because no one wants to think of anyone but Optimus as the true bearer of the Matrix.
What I mean is, modern fiction doesn't want to explore the possibility that anyone other than Optimus himself is the rightful bearer of the Matrix, because they want Optimus to be the Chosen One instead of Rodimus.I mean, it's not like Optimus could have been the Arisen at the moment. He was a-dead.
Heh, but no modern fiction has actually ever played around with this because no one wants to think of anyone but Optimus as the true bearer of the Matrix.
I hated Aligned's canon that Optimus specifically was the Thirteen.You know, going by the original movie saying that Hot Rod was the one destined to bear the Matrix, along with the modern lore of the Matrix's true bearer being the second coming of the Thirteenth Prime, that would kind of make Rodimus the Arisen instead of Optimus.
Heh, but no modern fiction has actually ever played around with this because no one wants to think of anyone but Optimus as the true bearer of the Matrix.
Hear, hear! It robbed any and all meaning of him inheriting the Matrix because of what made him special as a person as Orion Pax, and instead made it so that he was born special. It took away any and all humble beginnings he had in the Exodus novel and ruined the notion of "Anyone can be a hero" that he exemplified with his "I'm just a data clerk!" attitude, replacing all that with the idea that only he and he alone could bear the Matrix as its true owner.I hated Aligned's canon that Optimus specifically was the Thirteen.
Presumably, he gives it back to Optimus at some point after the latter is reborn as Star Convoy, since Optimus has it back in his possession by the time of the G-2 fiction.It also lets you play around with the expectations. Is Optimus The Arisen? Or merely the latest steward of the Matrix? You could say maybe, even hint at it. Or you could have to turn out to be Rodimus after all. Which would work in the wider history of the brand because IIRC Rodimus never passes on the Matrix. There are other Autobot leaders after him in the Japanese continuity
True, but something interesting that happened near the end of the Legends manga was all of them (Rodimus, Fort Max, Grand Max, God Ginrai, Victory Saber, and Dai Atlas) all receiving their own individual Energon Matrices separate from the Matrix of Leadership (Rodimus's even evolved him into his POTP Leader class toy design):but none of them are Primes or carry the Matrix.
Eat that, Rodimus haters!So swinging it to "Rodimus was The Arisen all along, and the Prime lineage ends with him" works well with what's been established.
Agreed. In my own head, Optimus works best as the guy who happens to become Prime in the midst of a huge crisis. He's just a data clerk (or miner, or dock worker, or cop, or extreme skateboarding instructor, take your pick of preferred pre-War Orion Pax professions) who answered the call to action. He's worthy of the Matrix not because of destiny but because of who he was, and the dire position he found himself in.Hear, hear! It robbed any and all meaning of him inheriting the Matrix because of what made him special as a person as Orion Pax, and instead made it so that he was born special. It took away any and all humble beginnings he had in the Exodus novel and ruined the notion of "Anyone can be a hero" that he exemplified with his "I'm just a data clerk!" attitude, replacing all that with the idea that only he and he alone could bear the Matrix as its true owner.
"Because he's Optimus Prime!"
This could be seen as the beginning of the "Energon Matrices" we see in the Japanese Beast Wars series and Car Robots. Where individual leaders of a certain rank all seem to have their own Matrix separate from the Capital T The Capital M Matrix.True, but something interesting that happened near the end of the Legends manga was all of them (Rodimus, Fort Max, Grand Max, God Ginrai, Victory Saber, and Dai Atlas) all receiving their own individual Energon Matrices separate from the Matrix of Leadership (Rodimus's even evolved him into his POTP Leader class toy design):
They actually got started earlier in the United EX fiction, which was set contemporaneously to Operation Combination. The Japanese text in the image I posted mentions that their Energon Matrices were created jointly between the Autobots and humans, which is a callback to United EX in which Professor Chip Chase was involved in the creation of the first Energon Matrices.This could be seen as the beginning of the "Energon Matrices" we see in the Japanese Beast Wars series and Car Robots. Where individual leaders of a certain rank all seem to have their own Matrix separate from the Capital T The Capital M Matrix.