Transformers Legacy toyline

LordGigaIce

Another babka?
Citizen
It'd be a pretty good mold if they retool away the lame car trunk on a stick, sorry, "shield."
I just stick it on his back and it's fine imo

I don’t like partsforming.
Neither do I and if ER Cliffjumper started a wider trend then I'd have more issues but it didn't.

I look at it like I look at faux parts. I don't like faux parts. But sometimes they can work in certain contexts. Like ER Prime's faux grill abs.
ER Cliffjumper's partsforming is the partsforming version of that for me- something I don't like in concept but which works well in this specific case.

If you want a deeper explanation it's because I can stick the back of the car chunk on his back and it looks perfectly fine.
 

Platypus Prime

Well-known member
Citizen
I admit when it comes to any sort of Partsforming discussion, that my first Transformer ever was a G1 Thundercracker. I used a sandwich bag as a near-permanent accessory for him. Still eventually lost EVERY part except for the two wings. So I'm just about immune by this point. Or possibly just traumatized.

Both helps and doesn't that a friend gave me, decades later, both the Legends and Deluxe Classics molds of Thundercracker for different birthdays, and I later got the Earthrise mold on clearance, so I *know* it doesn't have to be that way even if the guns do have to pop off and back on. It's still a vast improvement.
 

Andrusi

Lun!
Citizen
If it had only one peg and could stay in one of Cliffjumper's hands the whole way, I'd be happy with it. There aren't enough bots that enter robot mode with an accessory already in hand.
Well great. Now I need to dig RTS Fallback out of storage.
 

Steadfast

Freelancer
Citizen
There aren't enough bots that enter robot mode with an accessory already in hand.
Interragator comes to mind, as does the downside of integral-but-detachable-- if he drops his gear, his altmode reaaaaally suffers.

(IIRC one episode of BW had TM Megatron let go of his weapon and then they fell together like it was glued to his leg or something. It's a minor thing, but jeeeez.)
 

CoffeeHorse

Exhausted, but still standing.
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
It's nice to see that color scheme still appearing from time to time. One could build a whole collection of Primes with that scheme.

I kinda want to, but Cybertron Galaxy Force Prime is expensive these days.
 

Dake

Well-known member
Citizen
At least Overdrive and Camshaft showed up in Alternators/Binaltech. No such love for my beautiful boy Downshift...
They made him in Cybertron! And though I really want his original vehicle redone today, I'd be very excited by a modern version of the green muscle car too.
 

Salt-Man Z

that is not dead which can eternal lie
Citizen
They made him in Cybertron! And though I really want his original vehicle redone today, I'd be very excited by a modern version of the green muscle car too.
There have been a handful of other "Downshifts" since the 80s (there was an Armada MiniCon before the Cybertron figure), but G1 Downshift has yet to receive a second toy.
 

lastmaximal

Administrator
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
I've picked up most uses of the Cliffjumper/Bumblebee mold, as there's a lot about it to like. But I still feel the partsforming hatchback piece is a mistake. Drop the bazooka thing and use the tooling money on a few pieces that make an arm for the trunk piece to sit on and fold up onto the back. Let the upgrade kit makers produce the bazooka for whoever wants it, but release a fully engineered figure. Not the other way round like we got it.

I haven't looked into the upgrade kit that gives that arm, as the cost is an issue and I don't even know how durable that would be in the long run. But this is functionality I feel they could have put in themselves.
 

Salt-Man Z

that is not dead which can eternal lie
Citizen
My son has two of the Cliffjumper mold, and loves them, and finds it odd that the partsforming bugs me so much.
 

CoffeeHorse

Exhausted, but still standing.
Staff member
Council of Elders
Citizen
The transformation is otherwise fairly nice, and I think that's where the problem happened. The designer worked himself into a corner, and he liked what he'd already done too much to go back to the drawing board, so he took the easy way out on the remaining part.

It's telling that this wasn't a widespread thing. It wasn't an Earthrise Deluxe "feature." It wasn't Hasbro cutting the budget again. It's one particular design that went wrong.
 

Sabrblade

Continuity Nutcase
Citizen
Maybe they could have avoided it if the altmode had been a scrunched up chibi Ferrari instead of a more realistic one.
 


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