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[Undead Scottsman]

You... you don't need to use every sticker ToyHax includes in a set. In fact a lot of that "bloat" are redundant options to give the customer agency.

I get that this may chafe you, buying stickers you don't need, but I'm always going to be a fan of giving customers options.

I prefer my customer agency to provide for things like not having to spend money on stuff I'm not going to use and not, you know, after the fact justification for selling bloated sticker sets. "You don't have to use all of them" isn't really a solution when it's not USING them I have a problem with, it's having to buy them!

 

[Princess Viola]

I just want whoever started that shitty toon window sticker detailing crap shot into the sun tbh.

 

[G.B.Blackrock]

You... you don't need to use every sticker ToyHax includes in a set. In fact a lot of that "bloat" are redundant options to give the customer agency.

I get that this may chafe you, buying stickers you don't need, but I'm always going to be a fan of giving customers options.

I'd like for one of those "options" to be "the ability to pay less and get what I actually want" rather than "pay more to get a bunch of stuff I never wanted."

 

[Shadewing]

I prefer my customer agency to provide for things like not having to spend money on stuff I'm not going to use and not, you know, after the fact justification for selling bloated sticker sets. "You don't have to use all of them" isn't really a solution when it's not USING them I have a problem with, it's having to buy them!

I mean you don't /have/ to buy them; you don't /have/ to buy anything. Them existing doesn't mean you must get them, same with upgrade kits.

 

[PrimalxConvoy]

I'd like for one of those "options" to be "the ability to pay less and get what I actually want" rather than "pay more to get a bunch of stuff I never wanted."

It reminds me of when DNA sold their Scorponok kits in three separate kits, so I was able to buy the two that I wanted. However, even they combine them all together in an overpriced kit for Black Zarak, I didn't bother with it. I could be wrong but the "main" two Scorp sets sold out quickly but Black Zarak kits weren't sold out for ages (or even up to now)?

 

[Post-BayTransformersFan]

This may not fit here but does anybody else think it's weird that ER Prime is one of the only Optimus figures to not get a Nemesis/Scourge redeco? I was hoping for a Gen Selects release but now I'm not too confident

 

[Dake]

Is it already that time of the month for people to start whinging about Toyhax (and window stickers)? Man - the days just fly by, see everyone in a few weeks!

 

[LordGigaIce]

I prefer my customer agency to provide for things like not having to spend money on stuff I'm not going to use and not, you know, after the fact justification for selling bloated sticker sets. "You don't have to use all of them" isn't really a solution when it's not USING them I have a problem with, it's having to buy them!

I'd like for one of those "options" to be "the ability to pay less and get what I actually want" rather than "pay more to get a bunch of stuff I never wanted."

Echoing Shadewing... you're not required to buy anything. If the prices and options aren't to your liking you can choose not to buy.
But for those who are ok with their prices they get a plethora of options.

That's not even the main point though. PrimalxConvoy complained about figures "mummified in stickers" which is absurd to me.
Either buy the set and only use the ones you want or don't buy the set, I really don't care. But no one is forcing him or anyone else to use the full set of stickers on any set.

 

[Shadewing]

Echoing Shadewing... you're not required to buy anything. If the prices and options aren't to your liking you can choose not to buy.
But for those who are ok with their prices they get a plethora of options.

That's not even the main point though. PrimalxConvoy complained about figures "mummified in stickers" which is absurd to me.
Either buy the set and only use the ones you want or don't buy the set, I really don't care. But no one is forcing him or anyone else to use the full set of stickers on any set.

This is, I kinda agree with them. I can get no loiking sets, I can agree some do feel bloated, and no I'm not including sets with large amounts of spare options; sometimes meant for army builder characters. There are sets where it feels like they are trying to cover ever flat space possible. One that comes to mind is Selects Jackpot where all the stickers just look guady to me and they do cover everything it feels. Then there are sets with the stickers feel right an natural, like the recent Toxiton Cloud Clover; and in rare cases you get sets that honestly improve figures to such a degree I would almost say they are required. Stuff like SS Scavenger or Legacy Knock-out where the improvement is so drastic it feels like what the figure should have looked like in the first place.

But that doesn't change the fact that, these are all still incredibly optional and no one is forcing you to buy them if you don't like them.

 

[Undead Scottsman]

This is a Transformers board; we talk non-stop, all day every day, about stuff we don't HAVE to buy. It's the entire point of this place. Not a single person here NEEDS to buy a Transformer. Yet nobody is suggesting we curtail complaints about Transformers based on that fact, so I'm genuinely not sure why you think it's a valid argument against people who aren't fans of how Toyhax chooses to bundle their offerings.

Like, it's a smorgasbord (smorgasbullitinboard? ) of people complaining about Hasbro's increasing prices, hollow plastic, waffling, large backpacks, lack of paint or any of the zillion other comments people have about the toys we consume.

It's not like I hate Toyhax or something; I like the work they do and would likely buy a lot more of their product if it wasn't so expensive. But it is, so that's a very real barrier for me. Like the stickers for Velocitron Scourge are $35 normally; well over half of the cost of the base figure. Even on sale it's $24 dollars.

 

[LordGigaIce]

This is, I kinda agree with them.

Meh.
Unofficial stickers are, to me, the epitome of a luxury item in a hobby that is all about luxury items.

This isn't even a case of "don't be entitled" because the problem here seems to be that they're trying to please everyone and some people don't want to shoulder that cost.

But again- you don't need to buy them and you don't need to apply everything in a single set.

This is a Transformers board; we talk non-stop, all day every day, about stuff we don't HAVE to buy.

Here's my honest take on it.

I'm happy to pay for options and I'm happy to pay for sets where maybe I don't need everything applied.

 

[Lobjob]

As far as Toyhax goes, i absolutely adore them. I'm just dissapointed they don't sell actual repros for original Laser Prime, but instead offer this weird replacement that doesn't say OPTIMUS PRIME across his chest. That's like one of his best features, what gives guys?

 

[PrimalxConvoy]

As far as Toyhax goes, i absolutely adore them. I'm just dissapointed they don't sell actual repros for original Laser Prime, but instead offer this weird replacement that doesn't say OPTIMUS PRIME across his chest. That's like one of his best features, what gives guys?

Perhaps the name is copyrighted?

 

[ZacWilliam1]

Takara has released a relatively small grainy picture of United Silverbolt. Looks good.

Botcon Windrazor is almost a definite. That's gonna happen, so any other repaint might be a stretch but I can't help but imagine...

Purple Universe Silverbolt is probably the outside weird option.

In my dreams I'd like a Raven/Fox(or red wolf) repaint as a new character but that's probably pretty unlikely...


-ZacWilliam, I do wonder if we could get him remolded into anyone else with a Wolf mode: Wolffang, Thunderhowl, Beast Machines Quickstrike, Maybe even Carnivac or RiD Steeljaw

 

[PrimalxConvoy]

Takara has released a relatively small grainy picture of Unite Silverbolt. Looks good.

 

[Andrusi]

I rarely get Toyhax sets anymore because of unacceptably low percentages of stickers I'll actually use, but I think they probably think that the people who get mad at Hasbro for not exactly recreating every tiny mark that existed in the G1 cartoon for exactly one frame because a stray eraser crumb accidentally found its way onto the animation cel are probably more reliable customers than the people who just think it would be cool to see taillights get painted more often. Same with the add-on makers doing gap fillers and screw covers and such--the people who want gap fillers are going to want gap fillers basically every time, while it's more of a gamble whether anyone really cares whether Velocitron Road Rocket's blade is similar enough to G2 Road Rocket's.

At this point I would be surprised if the kit includes the parts we do want. DNA has gotten weird.

Lines from shortly before the mutants escape containment

 

[Gizmoboy]

Me too!

I only ordered 1 set, but I fully expect that if I run into them "in the wild," I'll probably cave and splurge on a second so that I can display each head option.

I'm planning on using my Decesous drones for the extra heads that come with the AutoTrooper to have like 2 different styles of troopers.

 

[G.B.Blackrock]

This is a Transformers board; we talk non-stop, all day every day, about stuff we don't HAVE to buy. It's the entire point of this place. Not a single person here NEEDS to buy a Transformer. Yet nobody is suggesting we curtail complaints about Transformers based on that fact, so I'm genuinely not sure why you think it's a valid argument against people who aren't fans of how Toyhax chooses to bundle their offerings.

THANK YOU!

Seriously, the reason I (speaking only for myself) complain about them is because I DO want to buy the sets, but these days, they add so much to what's really necessary that it puts me off, and then ToyHax doesn't get a sale at all (at least, not from me).

 

[Donocropolis]

Yeah, I do wish that they offered "small" sets as an option. I'd be willing to pay $5-10 for a small set of "essential" stickers a lot of times (or a bit more for larger figures) but once the price of stickers approaches around 1/2 the cost of the base figure, that's too rich for my blood. I'm not mad about it or anything, and it could very well be that small sets at low prices just aren't economically viable for them so I do understand.

 

[Agent X]

As far as Toyhax goes, i absolutely adore them. I'm just dissapointed they don't sell actual repros for original Laser Prime, but instead offer this weird replacement that doesn't say OPTIMUS PRIME across his chest. That's like one of his best features, what gives guys?

YEARS ago (when they were Reprolabels) I asked for that very set.

Their response: "It's not practical."

But everything now? toy-mummification. toon-windows. guaddy, unnecessary details. stickers for every detail on a mold. priced at half-to-full price of the figure it's for. ALL TOTALLY PRACTICAL APPARENTLY.