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[Sabrblade]

Hell, throw a large, scary, non-transforming Quintesson in that subline too. Why that was a Prime Changer is beyond me.

I feel like they did that as a red herring. What little we could see of them from the trailers made it look like they were going to be the primary antagonist force of the movie, whom the miners were all directly working for as slaves, with Sentinel as their unwilling puppet governor likewise forced to serve them. That impression hid the truth of Sentinel himself being the main villain while the Quints were instead looming in the background as a bigger threat than Sentinel but one less relevant to this chapter of the story, like how the Emperor loomed in the background of main-villain Darth Vader in The Empire Strikes Back.

 

[Gizmoboy]

G1 Minibots still transform

I'm a dumbass... sorry. I honestly didn't think about that. Core class, or as @lastmaximal pointed out, a kids line would work well for an action figure. I am also more tempted to pick up the D16 and Orion model kits now. I've avoided model kits in the past because they didn't transform. I didn't dawn on my until this very instant that those characters DON'T transform anyway!

 

[Sabrblade]

I'm a dumbass... sorry. I honestly didn't think about that. Core class, or as @lastmaximal pointed out, a kids line would work well for an action figure. I am also more tempted to pick up the D16 and Orion model kits now. I've avoided model kits in the past because they didn't transform. I didn't dawn on my until this very instant that those characters DON'T transform anyway!

Yolopark does really good work, and they're not built from a gazillion tiny little pieces like most traditional model kits are.

 

[LordGigaIce]

A DotM Cyberverse style subline with non-transforming figures for the miners that come with transforming set pieces/battle platforms could have been neat.

 

[LBD "Nytetrayn"]

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Miner = core class, Orion = deluxe, Optimus = voyager?
Could also go that way with Megatron too.

I do have one takeaway from this film, I'd love to see more of that universe but think it'll probably end up in some crossover with a future series.

Fortress Maximus:

Fortress Maximus - With Cog:

 

[lastmaximal]

I feel like they did that as a red herring. What little we could see of them from the trailers made it look like they were going to be the primary antagonist force of the movie, whom the miners were all directly working for as slaves, with Sentinel as their unwilling puppet governor likewise forced to serve them. That impression hid the truth of Sentinel himself being the main villain while the Quints were instead looming in the background as a bigger threat than Sentinel but one less relevant to this chapter of the story, like how the Emperor loomed in the background of main-villain Darth Vader in The Empire Strikes Back.

If this were the case, they'd already have put more thought into that one choice than the lineup for the toyline/s.

 

[Sabrblade]

I mean, it happened before.

DOTM's pre-release marketing led us to believe Shockwave would be the main antagonist of that movie, as a red herring to hide the fact that Sentinel was the true main antagonist for that one as well.

 

[LordGigaIce]

Most famous version of that is Iron Man 3 where Iron Man's comic arch nemesis the Mandarin was sold as the main antagonist, only for that to be an in universe red herring with the real baddie being some inconsequential character from the Extremis comic arc.
That even extended into the toyline with Kingsly's Mandarin sold as the main baddie in the Iron Man 3 lego sets.

Star Trek Into Darkness famously tried to hide that Khan was the main villain.

As laughable as that was, Captain America: Winter Solider tried to fein mystery over who the Winter Soldier was despite anyone with even a passing knowledge of Captain America knowing it was Bucky.

So doing something like this, to the point of getting the toys in on it, isn't unheard of. One might ask why Hasbro produced an entire mould to further some misdirection and the answer is... I donno maybe someone thought it was a cool design? I think that. I bought two to flesh out my Quintesson forces.

 

[Sabrblade]

As laughable as that was, Captain America: Winter Solider tried to fein mystery over who the Winter Soldier was despite anyone with even a passing knowledge of Captain America knowing it was Bucky.

It worked for my mother, at least, since she never read any comics, and I refrained from telling her about the Winter Soldier's true identity. She saw the first Cap movie, and then when watching the second, her jaw dropped when Cap first said "Bucky...?" during that final fight.

 

[LordGigaIce]

It worked for my mother, at least, since she never read any comics, and I refrained from telling her about the Winter Soldier's true identity. She saw the first Cap movie, and then when watching the second, her jaw dropped when Cap first said "Bucky...?" during that final fight.

That's cool!

 

[Sabrblade]

That's cool!

So, there are still casuals out there that that kind of tactic worked for.

 

[LordGigaIce]

True, but I have to think that for younger casuals who maybe didn't know they would have google'd it in quick order.
I'm not really bashing the decisions with the marketing because even the hint of mystery is probably better than nothing at all, but I just found it funny.

Regardless, this isn't a Captain America discussion. I'm mostly just saying that film studios and the toy companies that work with them have long tried to trick the audiences with this kind of thing.
Another case being Batman Begins where Liam Neeson's Ra's was depicted as Henri Ducard in the toyline with Ken Watanabe's decoy Ra's action figure being sold as Ra's al Ghul.

It's not that uncommon a practice and I don't think Paramount and Hasbro were out on some crazy misadventure trying to portray the Quintessons as the main villains in the marketing. It's pretty standard, especially in franchise movies.

There's a lot we can blame about this movie's off-screen issues on Paramount and Hasbro, but them making a Quintesson toy for the Walmart assortment isn't one of them.

 

[lastmaximal]

I mean, it happened before.

DOTM's pre-release marketing led us to believe Shockwave would be the main antagonist of that movie, as a red herring to hide the fact that Sentinel was the true main antagonist for that one as well.

I am well aware. And that movie HAD a toyline that wasn't weirdly under/mispopulated.

And I mean, really, the main eventual antagonist here is MEGATRON. Sentinel plays a significant role and is at the center of a big twist, I'll grant, but were5 literally watching for the origin story of THE big bad.

And it's not much of a red herring when the Quintesson gets all of one toy, while Sentinel gets various ones including in the gimmick sublines as well. Not that I want more Quintessons per se.

 

[Shadewing]

True, but I have to think that for younger casuals who maybe didn't know they would have google'd it in quick order.
I'm not really bashing the decisions with the marketing because even the hint of mystery is probably better than nothing at all, but I just found it funny.

Regardless, this isn't a Captain America discussion. I'm mostly just saying that film studios and the toy companies that work with them have long tried to trick the audiences with this kind of thing.
Another case being Batman Begins where Liam Neeson's Ra's was depicted as Henri Ducard in the toyline with Ken Watanabe's decoy Ra's action figure being sold as Ra's al Ghul.

It's not that uncommon a practice and I don't think Paramount and Hasbro were out on some crazy misadventure trying to portray the Quintessons as the main villains in the marketing. It's pretty standard, especially in franchise movies.

There's a lot we can blame about this movie's off-screen issues on Paramount and Hasbro, but them making a Quintesson toy for the Walmart assortment isn't one of them.

On the flipside, I remember how this backfired with Mask of the Phantasm, since they made the Phatasm's figure able to have a removable outfit. So anyone that bought that toy knew the twist before ever seeing the movie. Its a good thing the Internet wasn't really a thing back then, or it would have been plastered everywhere.

 

[Superomegaprime]

Most famous version of that is Iron Man 3 where Iron Man's comic arch nemesis the Mandarin was sold as the main antagonist, only for that to be an in universe red herring with the real baddie being some inconsequential character from the Extremis comic arc.

I hated that twist, it completely wrecked the character of the Mandarin, the actor playing the "Real Mandarin" is completely forgettable as a villian, it was a terrible twist if you ask me

 

[Sabrblade]

On the flipside, I remember how this backfired with Mask of the Phantasm, since they made the Phatasm's figure able to have a removable outfit. So anyone that bought that toy knew the twist before ever seeing the movie. Its a good thing the Internet wasn't really a thing back then, or it would have been plastered everywhere.

Especially since the toy was packaged unmasked, meaning the spoiler was right there on display for all to see in the plastic bubble, before one ever even bought it and opened it up.

 

[Shadewing]

Especially since the toy was packaged unmasked, meaning the spoiler was right there on display for all to see in the plastic bubble, before one ever even bought it and opened it up.

tbf, they did try to cover it with a sticker.

 

[Gizmoboy]

I hated that twist, it completely wrecked the character of the Mandarin, the actor playing the "Real Mandarin" is completely forgettable as a villian, it was a terrible twist if you ask me

As someone who has never opened an Iron Man comic in my life, I absolutely loved it. Was such a great twist and the scene when Tony Stark uncovered the plot was one of the best in all of Marvel cinema.

 

[Sabrblade]

As someone who has never opened an Iron Man comic in my life

I never did either, but I still knew of The Mandarin from the 90s Iron Man cartoon in which he was the series-long main antagonist.

(And green-skinned, for some weird reason.)

 

[Shadewing]

I never did either, but I still knew of The Mandarin from the 90s Iron Man cartoon in which he was the series-long main antagonist.

(And green-skinned, for some weird reason.)

To try and make him less of a racist characture.