Transformers: One - New Animated Prequel coming September 20th, 2024 - New Toy Official Images!

LordGigaIce

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The second trailer was much better and better reflected the tone of the movie, but you only get one first impression and the first trailer was trying too hard to seem like it was a MCU-esque yuck fest at a time when the MCU is kinda running stale with audiences.

I'd also say they should have held off on this movie for like...a year? Maybe two even? RotB also underperformed and giving a general audience burnt out on Transformers movies a chance to miss the franchise might have helped
 
Shadewing

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Gizmoboy said:
I thought I saw that Hasbro is already in discussions for a sequel. Was that just fan nonsense?
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I've seen that as well. Which feels true, beucase Hasbro and Paramount have different measure of success when it comes to these movies. They considered ROTB to actually be successful, even if most everyone else didn't. I feel TFO has managed the same, to be successful even if its not been a box office powerhouse.
 
LordGigaIce

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Gizmoboy said:
I thought I saw that Hasbro is already in discussions for a sequel. Was that just fan nonsense?
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Thing is that, when accounting for worldwide gross, TFO has made its budget and advertising costs back and then some. No, it didn't do gangbusters. Yes, it's the worst performing Transformers movie since 2007 by a wide margin, but it still made everyone involved a bit of cash. In a world where even the MCU can take a bath on a movie or two, coming out ahead, if even by a little bit, is enough to be considered a success.

Shadewing said:
I've seen that as well. Which feels true, beucase Hasbro and Paramount have different measure of success when it comes to these movies. They considered ROTB to actually be successful, even if most everyone else didn't. I feel TFO has managed the same, to be successful even if its not been a box office powerhouse.
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TFO made money and is tied to one of Paramount's key franchises. That's enough to get execs to sign off on more.
Plus you have stuff like digital purchases and streaming. I don't think it's hit Paramount+ yet but it is available for purchase on a number of sites. So strong digital and streaming numbers, brand awareness, and heck, toy sales... if the total package (of which box office returns is just part) was a net gain... why not do more?

I'm happy with it. Of course I'd love if the best Transformers movie since 1986 (and arguably better) was seen by more people and did better, but I'll take "made enough money to get a sequel" because it looked like we wouldn't even hit that low bar for a hot minute.
 
Sabrblade

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Josh Cooley has expressed personal interest in wanting to do a trilogy.

And what was actually said is that there are talks going on about "future projects". But, that precise wording is typical of the business, as the same has been said about there being talks for "future projects" for ROTB (particularly the GI Joe crossover film that that movie hinted at), and even back when TLK was still in theaters were there talks about "future projects" for that movie too (but that was before they decided to take things in a different direction for the Bumblebee movie). So it's all still up in the air at this point.

In other words, expect the worst but hope for the best.
 
LordGigaIce

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TF movie rankings because why not? Star Wars nerds love to do this and we're not as bad as them!

TFO
TFTM
Bumblebee
'07
DotM
RotB
AoE
RotF
TLK

Really once you get below RotB it's all pretty bad.
Also TLK has a lot of cool designs, music, and concepts, and part of me wants to put it above RotF but I can't. For all TLK had going for it on paper the execution is just pure cocaine fuelled nonsense. This is a movie that ripped off the "SAVE MARTHA!" scene from Batman v Superman. Think about that. Ripped that off.
 
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I place 07 above Bumblebee. Bumblebee was a needed change of pace after the collapse of the Bay era, and Prime's appearance was obviously somebody's dream come true. But without that backdrop, it's a pretty unremarkable movie. If it weren't a change of pace, if it had been the movie we got in the first place in 2007, this would not have blown up into a billion dollar film franchise.
 
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Personally I don't think I'd rate the 80's movie that high, I love it and its part of my childhood, but Like Bumblebee is "ET" TFTM is just Star Wars. I just don't objectively feel its a better then 07 or Bumblebee.
 
Sabrblade

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Undead Scottsman said:
whoops we basically just remade ET, only with a big transforming robot.
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Which, funnily enough, is what Spielberg was originally trying to do with the 2007 movie.

(And is why he originally didn't want any of the Autobots or Decepticons to ever speak at all. "Radio Bumblebee" was the compromise we got as a result.)
 

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Undead Scottsman said:
Bumblebee is basically "What if we took this first movie and slid the knob away from 'Michael Bay' and back more towards 'Stephen Spielberg' and whoops we basically just remade ET, only with a big transforming robot. Also we got a bit of Iron Giant in there somehow?"
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And look how great that turned out!

Seriously, I'd still argue Bumblebee is probably the best "OVERALL" Transformers film, and probably the best "jumping in point" in terms of accessibility without the "bro-ness" of Michael Bay.
 
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Shadewing said:
Personally I don't think I'd rate the 80's movie that high, I love it and its part of my childhood, but Like Bumblebee is "ET" TFTM is just Star Wars. I just don't objectively feel its a better then 07 or Bumblebee.
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I went to a small, 100% Engineering school, so it was basically Nerd Central. I remember one day walking into my dorm after classes and a large group was gathered watching TFTM on the big screen in the lobby. Naturally, I stopped to watch. A friend of mine who was from Greece and therefore wasn't part of American pop-culture of the 80's was there, too. Seeing his "wtf" reaction to the the movie made me realize that it would be a completely different experience when not viewed through nostalgia-tinted glasses. I absolutely love the movie, but I have to admit that it's not objectively good.
 
LordGigaIce

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CoffeeHorse said:
I place 07 above Bumblebee. Bumblebee was a needed change of pace after the collapse of the Bay era, and Prime's appearance was obviously somebody's dream come true. But without that backdrop, it's a pretty unremarkable movie. If it weren't a change of pace, if it had been the movie we got in the first place in 2007, this would not have blown up into a billion dollar film franchise.
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Bumblebee has a lot going for it. It's a sweet movie. It tells a simple, straightforward story well. It hits all the right notes, the characters are shockingly relatable and likeable. I don't think this would have made Transformers a billion dollar franchise if we got it in 2007, but I also don't think you can separate films from their context. Art is is... well... it's reactive to the world around it, including other art. It being such a refreshing change of pace from the Bay era heavily informed it.

I don't think anyone is thinking "back to basics and stripped down" about Transformers in 2007. Everything happened as it did, because circumstances around them forced them to. 2007 was the time for Michael Bay cocaine fuelled nonsense. And once that high crashed back down to Earth? It was time for what Bumblebee gave us.

I really, really like the film. It's just cozy for me, for lack of a better term. And I'd love to rank it higher than three, but TFO and '86 just have too much going for them IMO.
 
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LordGigaIce said:
I don't think anyone is thinking "back to basics and stripped down" about Transformers in 2007.
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I was, iconoclastic fan that I am, but then I had been immersed in multiple streams of Transformers fiction that had, from mid-2002 until 2007, had the overarching metaplot of "OH NOES UNICRON WILL EAT THE OMNIVERSE" while Optimus Prime gets a helping of Robot vs. Self conflict. The latter strain would persist in post-2007 storylines, of course, but Transformers: A Michael Bay film went back to "two sets of robots fight over an artifact that grants life, while a small yellow robot befriends a human boy", and had fun with it. And fun had been in somewhat shorter supply after RiD 2001.... unless you count giving Energon the MST3K treatment. 🙃
 
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